And I will add this wrinkle...just because I think it is fair...any announcement of a sequel that comes out while the film is in theaters doesn't count. That could be B/S marketing. The movie has to begin filming before I win.
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Michael Bailey <[email protected]>wrote: > I'll accept those terms. And I figured I would see the, "a fool and his > money" thing. > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'll take that bet. A fool and his money! >> >> Let's say there needs to be a sequel by 7/4/13. The bet will come due >> upon announcement of the sequel's impending release OR an article saying >> there are NO PLANS for a sequel. >> >> Do you agree to those terms? >> >> How will I spend the money, I wonder. Not on a DVD, that's for sure! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael Bailey <[email protected]> >> To: theuniquegeek <[email protected]> >> Sent: Mon, Jun 20, 2011 2:02 pm >> Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] Re: Superhero box office chart >> >> Ravenface, I bet you $10 that there will be a theatrical sequel. >> >> No joke. We may have to wait a year or two, but I got ten bones that says >> it will happen and be released into theaters. >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:49 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> This is the main point. Maybe we are confusing whether it was a "good" >>> movie vs. whether or not it was a profitable movie. Ultimately, the "good" >>> part is personal. I, like Luke, think Starship Troopers is one of the best >>> movies ever made. I think that maniac who came on here savaging it because >>> it wasn't like the book was totally coconuts. >>> >>> Terrible movies get sequels. Big Momma's House 3, fer chrissake. But >>> those terrible movies that got sequels made money at some point prior to the >>> sequel. They were profitable. >>> >>> Green Lantern will not be for a very long time, if ever. There will be >>> no licensing from it. No one in Illinois is going to line up to buy Big >>> Gulp cups with Tomar Re on them, kids aren't clamoring for a Lego Oa. I'm >>> sure Reese's regrets their too-early involvement. >>> >>> But, yes, Luke, what ultimately matters is your own personal experience >>> with a movie. With GL, you will have to accept it's all you're going to >>> get. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Luke <[email protected]> >>> To: The Unique Geek <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Mon, Jun 20, 2011 1:30 pm >>> Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Superhero box office chart >>> >>> One of the other realities here which we have not mentioned is that >>> Green Lantern is going to face a tougher road than its competition as >>> well. Cars 2 is right around the next turn (see what I did there) and >>> Disney Pixar should never be underestimated, especially in the wake of >>> the big numbers of Toy Story 3, and when considering the crossover >>> appeal of the Cars property. >>> >>> The other reality is that any one individual viewer's reaction to a >>> film has nothing to do with how the film performs. If I liked the film >>> it was because I thought it was a fun movie, not because I am >>> desperately hoping it succeeds. "A song is a song, ya either dig it >>> or ya don't." >>> >>> On Jun 20, 4:17 pm, James Peluso <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > DC still has the top grossing movie in that genre with The Dark Knight. >>> > >>> > And when The Dark Knight Rises comes out it's going to blow the numbers >>> > off >>> > the chart. >>> > >>> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:15 PM, James Peluso >>> > <[email protected]>wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > Does this kill the potential of other "B-list" DC characters getting >>> > > their >>> > > own Movie? >>> > >>> > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Edward Crosby <[email protected]> >>> > > wrote: >>> > >>> > >> See, I am of the opinion that Hollywood will make anything, whether >>> > >> it's a >>> > >> money loss or not. We have plenty of examples in the past 10 years. >>> > >> Despite >>> > >> the reviews and box office, I still think there could be a sequel. I >>> > >> don't >>> > >> base this on the fact that I'm a Green Lantern fanboy, even though I >>> > >> am not >>> > >> a Hal Jordan fan. I base this, again, on the stupidity and >>> > >> mindlessness of >>> > >> Hollywood. >>> > >>> > >> ---------------------------------------- >>> > >> Have a Better One, >>> > >> Edward Crosby >>> > >>http://about.me/edwardcrosby >>> > >>> > >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> Also, GI Joe was a much better movie than Green Lantern. >>> > >>> > >>> Oh wait, I was "supposed to like that" so my opinion is invalid. >>> > >>> > >>> On Jun 20, 4:03 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > It's got similar opening figures (and similar critical scorn) to GI >>> > >>> Joe: >>> > >>> > >>> >http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=gijoe.htm >>> > >>> > >>> > That dog is getting a sequel. I wouldn't stake the house on it, but >>> > >>> > I >>> > >>> wouldn't be surprised if they do make a sequel for Green Lantern. >>> > >>> Reynolds >>> > >>> is already talking about a plot. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Jun 20, 2011, at 3:53 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > > It's very clear they had a sequel "planned." The movie was >>> > >>> > > presented >>> > >>> as a "tentpole," a launching point for a "franchise" but there is NO >>> > >>> AUDIENCE lined up to see it. It had bad buzz and bad numbers. What >>> > >>> is >>> > >>> wrong with you guys? I know you have your Green Lantern pillows and >>> > >>> love >>> to >>> > >>> hold them to your faces and feel the cool cloth and and the soft >>> > >>> cotton >>> and >>> > >>> say, "Oh, Gween Wanter, I wuv ooo. No one understands you like I do. >>> > >>> Fly >>> > >>> anywhere, Hal. Take me anywhere in the whole world!" but America >>> > >>> does not >>> > >>> feel that way. >>> > >>> > >>> > > People can be taught to care about things they don't know about >>> > >>> beforehand, but they need a good guide and not a boring, blobby guide >>> > >>> with >>> a >>> > >>> mask that doesn't fit. >>> > >>> > >>> > > You will NOT see the headline, "Ryan Reynolds signed to GL sequel" >>> > >>> anytime in the anytime. I'm sure people will be fired over this dog. >>> Have >>> > >>> been fired. >>> > >>> > >>> > > If there's a sequel, it will be direct to DVD with puppets. >>> > >>> > >>> > > You are overestimating the "magical avenues of distribution." >>> > >>> > > Those >>> > >>> avenues are clogged and shrinking. Making a movie doesn't equal >>> > >>> immediate >>> > >>> fame and riches because people watch them on cell phones now. If you >>> spend >>> > >>> a METRIC TON of money on a movie, you better have a huge opening >>> > >>> weekend >>> to >>> > >>> justify it. >>> > >>> > >>> > > -----Original Message----- >>> > >>> > > From: Cary Preston <[email protected]> >>> > >>> > > To: theuniquegeek <[email protected]> >>> > >>> > > Sent: Mon, Jun 20, 2011 12:41 pm >>> > >>> > > Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] Superhero box office chart >>> > >>> > >>> > > This. Even absolute stinkers can turn a handy profit when you >>> > >>> consider all avenues of distribution. With Hollywood in the mire of >>> > >>> sequel-mania (and apparently grasping for movie ideas) I wouldn't be >>> > >>> surprised if they have a sequel already planned. >>> > >>> > >>> > > On Jun 20, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Michael Bailey < >>> > >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >> You act as if this was the only money the film is going to make. >>> > >>> Are they pulling it from theaters and I wasn't aware of this. And >>> > >>> what >>> > >>> about international numbers? Has it been released overseas? Plus >>> > >>> there >>> are >>> > >>> the DVD sales to consider. I doubt that WB would just dump this and >>> > >>> movie >>> > >>> on. >>> > >>> > >>> > >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:23 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > >> It did very badly. The budget was much higher than X-Men, and >>> > >>> > >> the >>> > >>> marketing budget easily added another $100 million to that number. >>> So...it >>> > >>> will end up making maybe $80 on a $300 dollar investment. There's no >>> chance >>> > >>> of a sequel. >>> > >>> > >>> > >> X-Men had good reviews and held over decently. It's also part >>> > >>> > >> of an >>> > >>> established franchise. It didn't overwhelm, but if they make a >>> > >>> sequel and >>> > >>> put Wolverine in it, they'll make a few bucks. There's history and >>> > >>> the >>> > >>> numbers in relation to the budget inspired hope. >>> > >>> > >>> > >> GL had nothing for anyone to hold on to unless you count the hope >>> > >>> that ten thousand people fell in love with Sinestro and can't wait to >>> > >>> see >>> > >>> him be the bad guy next time. Spoiler warning - they didn't. >>> > >>> > >>> > >> The only thing WB can cling to is they were the "number one >>> > >>> > >> movie in >>> > >>> America" that week. They may even throw some more money in the toilet >>> > >>> advertising that fact. More good money after bad. >>> > >>> > >>> > >> I'm glad you enjoyed it. I knew Luke would, he likes >>> > >>> > >> everything. I >>> > >>> knew Van would, he has books to sell, but it won't be bothering us any >>> time >>> > >>> in the future. We won't have Hal Jordan to kick around any more. >>> > >>> > >>> > >> GL was a braying donkey. >>> > >>> > >>> > >> -----Original Message----- >>> > >>> > >> From: Michael Bailey <[email protected]> >>> > >>> > >> To: theuniquegeek <[email protected]> >>> > >>> > >> Sent: Mon, Jun 20, 2011 8:31 am >>> > >>> > >> Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] Superhero box office chart >>> > >>> > >>> > >> That is interesting. All things considered and compared to the >>> > >>> > >> two >>> > >>> other super-hero films of the summer GL didn't too badly. That is a >>> > >>> 2500 >>> or >>> > >>> so dollar difference between First Class and they were talking sequel >>> > >>> that >>> > >>> first weekend. >>> > >>> > >>> > >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Jason Service >>> > >>> > >> <[email protected]> >>> > >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > >> I thought that was very interesting! I wonder how Superman and >>> > >>> Superman II would rate in 2011 dollars...I think that would be even >>> > >>> more >>> > >>> meaningful, to adjust for inflation. >>> > >>> > >>> > >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Edward Crosby >>> > >>> > >> <[email protected]> >>> > >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > >> This is pretty interesting to view. >>> > >>> > >>>http://boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?view=openings&id=superhero.htm... >>> > >>> > >>> > >> ---------------------------------------- >>> > >>> > >> Have a Better One, >>> > >>> > >> Edward Crosby >>> > >>> > >>http://about.me/edwardcrosby >>> > >>> > >> -- >>> > >>> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> > >>> > >> Google >>> > >>> Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>> > >>> > >> To post to this group, send email to >>> > >>> > >> [email protected] >>> > >>> . >>> > >>> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > >>> [email protected]. >>> > >>> > >> For more options, visit this group athttp:// >>> > >>> groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- >>> > >>> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> > >>> > >> Google >>> > >>> Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>> > >>> > >> To post to this group, send email to >>> > >>> > >> [email protected] >>> > >>> . >>> > >>> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > >>> [email protected]. >>> > >>> > >> For more options, visit this group athttp:// >>> > >>> groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- >>> > >>> > >> This post/e-mail was written by Michael Bailey, Superman >>> > >>> > >> Apologist >>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- >>> > >>> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> > >>> > >> Google >>> > >>> Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>> > >>> > >> To post to this group, send email to >>> > >>> > >> [email protected] >>> > >>> . >>> > >>> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > >>> [email protected]. >>> > >>> > >> For more options, visit this group athttp:// >>> > >>> groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- >>> > >>> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> > >>> > >> Google >>> > >>> Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>> > >>> > >> To post to this group, send email to >>> > >>> > >> [email protected] >>> > >>> . >>> > >>> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > >>> [email protected]. >>> > >>> > >> For more options, visit this group athttp:// >>> > >>> groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- >>> > >>> > >> This post/e-mail was written by Michael Bailey, Superman >>> > >>> > >> Apologist >>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- >>> > >>> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> > >>> > >> Google >>> > >>> Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>> > >>> > >> To post to this group, send email to >>> > >>> > >> [email protected] >>> > >>> . >>> > >>> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > >>> [email protected]. >>> > >>> > >> For more options, visit this group athttp:// >>> > >>> groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> > >>> > >>> > > -- >>> > >>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> > >>> Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>> > >>> > > To post to this group, send email to >>> > >>> > > [email protected]. >>> > >>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > >>> [email protected]. >>> > >>> > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// >>> > >>> groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> > >>> > >>> > > -- >>> > >>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> > >>> Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>> > >>> > > To post to this group, send email to >>> > >>> > > [email protected]. >>> > >>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > >>> [email protected]. >>> > >>> > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// >>> > >>> groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - 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