It seems like these Marvel movies are director-proof. Like, everyone whose made one so far has been...available. Branaugh hadn't had a hit in way over ten (20?) years, Favreau the same. Don't even know who did the second Hulk. Johnston (Capt. America) has a garbagey career. All you have to do is show up, tell the lead where to stand and turn off the lights when you leave. The scripts are (pretty) good and people are willing to forgive a lot because they know everything is part of a large story. Great, great marketing on these things.
So, Joss Whedon shouldn't mess it up, whatever you think of him. For what it's worth, I've never taken to Firefly (I may try again if my relationship busts up and I need material to attract a new chick. Firefly? More like Spanish Fly!) (The chick in the box thing is on the cover of OMAC #1, which I think predates...everything.) Originality is over-rated. Not going to ding the guy for copying stuff, but do have to praise the guy for making a likable female hero. Buffy, while not MY exact cup of tea, was fun with some really excellent arcs. The show ripped off Promethea and everything else, but nobody read Promethea. Stuff isn't automatically bad because it wasn't first. You can't tell a kid who loves Avatar it sucks because it was a Ferngully ripoff. They didn't see Ferngully (and Ferngully sucks). Can't tell anyone not to like Star Wars because it was a Kurasowa ripoff. If something makes you happy, it makes you happy. Whedon's stuff "plays" like fan fic, but it's decent-enough and exciting enough and chicks had someone to cheer for. If Avengers is good or bad, it won't have anything to do with him. It'll be the story. (and the story, from what we can tell, seems cool) Caw! -----Original Message----- From: Luke Jaconetti <[email protected]> To: The Unique Geek <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2011 1:40 am Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Re First Avengers Trailer Now Online Van, I am going to be very narrow-scoped in my responses because my opinions about Joss Whedon have gotten me in trouble on this group before. My wife watched BTVS and I thought the show was insipid. When comics fans bemoan that Brian Michael Bendis/Geoff Johns/Gail Simone/Rob Liefeld/whomever is "getting paid to write fanfic," my immediate first thought is Whedon. The icing on that cake was an interview in Wizard where he claimed that Buffy would mop the floor with Blade as well as Count Dracula. I tried Firefly after my friend Adam lent me the DVDs. I made it through two episodes before giving up. More stock characters spouting his stock dialogue. The "space western" has been done a lot better and a lot earlier. Once I saw the mysterious box in the first episode I said to my (now) wife "There's a girl in that box." And once the girl was revealed, and she asked me how I knew that, I said "Because Outlaw Star did it years ago." I rented Serenity from Netflix after hearing the non-stop praise from some of my friends and folks on message boards, including how it was (and I quote) "Star Wars done right' and "accessible even if you didn't watch Firefly." I thought the film was an incoherent mess and one of the worst modern science fiction films I have seen. Joss Whedon has not proven himself as a feature film director. His one feature was a financial disaster. I am very concerned about the Avengers using the same tired, boxed-in, trendy language that all of his characters seem to use. In the interest of full disclosure I have not read any of his comics work. The X-Men have not appealed to me in a long time. ~Luke On Oct 12, 8:13 am, Van Plexico <[email protected]> wrote: > Loki works as the main villain for several reasons, not least of which is > that he was the team's first foe in the comics-- the one who caused the team to come together. I just hope they don't defeat him by locking him in a lead box. > > I've been figuring he would be the mastermind and we'd see a sort of "Masters of Evil" manipulated by him. The Red Skull & Hydra would be included, I'd think. Maybe the/an Abomination. > > Love that they're doing at least a little unfriendliness between Tony & > Steve. In fact, in that trailer we see practically a staging of their argument from 167, albeit with today' smartass Tony in the role of 1978's heroic Tony. > > What don't you like about Whedon, Luke? I never watched Buffy much because I have no interest in vampires or teenagers, but I thought his X-Men comics were very solid and that Firefly was terrific-- and that Serenity demonstrated that he can write and direct a fantastic, fast-paced, character-driven feature film with action and snappy dialogue. I can think of anyone I'd prefer to be in charge of this movie. > > --Van > > Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Unique Geek" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Unique Geek" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en.
