Corporate greed from the perspective of trying to capitalize off of the good press and geek frenzy over the other Marvel movies. Who knows if they were just trying to put out a product and make as much as they could (and to perpetuate those rights), or if they were actually trying to make a quality movie. Marvel built their movie universe without the FF by necessity, not choice- the same with mutants/X Men. It would be better with them, but they’ve done a great job working around the lost character rights; I would never have thought of the Inhumans as suitable X Men replacements but its worked so far. Fox will never let the rights revert. That’s throwing money away; even though the FF movie is a box office flop when you pile on the video rental, sales, and broadcast revenue they’ll still scrape a profit. > On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Luke Jaconetti <[email protected]> wrote: > > The overwhelming negative press -- both geeky and otherwise -- in the lead up > to this film essentially doomed it . Even if the film was a 4-star epic, > nothing could have saved it from the bad vibes associated with it. > > I want to throw this out to the group as food for thought -- I have seen a > lot of folks online (not here in this group, but certainly on the TTF group > on Facebook) decry Fox for their "corporate greed" for making this movie. > Maybe I am looking at this from the wrong perspective, but why is it > "corporate greed" for a studio to make a film based on a property they own > the rights to? Isn't that like... normal? > > I understand the fan entitlement mindset, but I don't get why Fox should let > the rights -- rights which they paid for -- lapse "just because" the fans > want Marvel to have the rights back. Does fan goodwill make money? John > Smith would be aghast. (FWIW Smith's Invisible Hand is clearly at work with > this movie.) > > If the rights reverted to Marvel, they would have access to all of the FF > concepts -- but the MCU has been built specifically without those concepts. > The FF are not like Spider-Man, Daredevil, the Punisher, or Ghost Rider who > can be easily folded in without causing too many ripples because, ultimately, > they operate on a small scale relative to the Avengers. The FF clearly do > not. And if you introduce them after the Avengers, well, what makes the FF > "special" in the larger scale of the MCU? > > Will Fox let the rights revert? I don't know. A few weeks ago I would have > said no, since Fox was so adamant about holding onto the FF (and the X-Men > obviously). Now, as toxic as this film has seemingly become, they might let > them revert. Will have any meaningful impact on the MCU? Food for thought > again... > > > On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 10:30:51 AM UTC-4, cwpreston wrote: > This just in- want to make money on a Marvel title? LET MARVEL DO IT. > Seriously. >> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fantastic-four-could-lead-60-814324 >> <http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fantastic-four-could-lead-60-814324> >> >> 'Fantastic Four' Could Lead to $60 Million Write-Off for Fox >> >> >> Fantastic Four could lead to more than a $60 million write-off for 21st >> Century Fox, an analyst said in a research note. >> >> The $120 million movie directed by Josh Trank earned just $26 million >> domestically its opening weekend. >> >> Fox had already warned that its film studio would not make as much in the >> current year as it did in the prior year. >> >> Barton Crockett, an analyst at FBR & Co., said that Fantastic Four amounts >> to "a negative start to Fox's already cautious forecast for a $200 million >> year-over-year decline in studio segment profits in fiscal year 2016." >> >> Crockett had estimated the troubled film would debut at $27.7 million but it >> couldn't even muster that much, a paltry figure compared with that of other >> movies based on Marvel superheroes. >> >> In terms of domestic box office, the 2005 version of Fantastic Four, also >> distributed by Fox, opened twice as well domestically as did the new version. >> >> The new one scored just a C– CinemaScore while the 10-year-old version got a >> B. At RottenTomatoes.com <http://rottentomatoes.com/>, the 2015 Fantastic >> Four received just a 9 percent fresh rating while the one from a decade >> earlier boasted 27 percent. >> >> Crockett blamed Fantastic Four for leading a 30 percent decline in the >> weekend's box office compared with last year for the top dozen titles. >> >> In large part due to the poor performance of Fantastic Four over the >> weekend, Crockett now estimates a 4.3 percent rise in domestic box office in >> the third quarter, 280 basis points less than he had previously forecast. >> >> Also not helping the overall box-office numbers this quarter is The >> Weinstein Co. pulling its animated Underdogs, which was to open next >> weekend. Crockett estimated Underdogs would see a $40 million domestic run. >> >> Email: Paul...@ <>THR.com <http://thr.com/> >> Read More It's Been a Forgettable Year for the Fantastic Four >> <x-msg://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/been-a-forgettable-year-fantastic-813924> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Unique Geek" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek > <http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>.
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