So, one thing that’s probably changed in that upgrade is that the newer 
versions of Riddle are now a little fussier about running indexing commands, 
and raise exceptions depending on the status code of the `indexer` command. So, 
it could be possible this issue was always happening but the errors weren’t 
apparent. I feel that’s unlikely though - you’d probably have noticed if delta 
results weren’t appearing?

Also worth considering is the underlying error:

> FATAL: failed to lock 
> /sites/cap/classifieds.acceleweb.com/db/sphinx/production/address_delta.spl: 
> <http://classifieds.acceleweb.com/db/sphinx/production/address_delta.spl:> 
> Resource temporarily unavailable, will not index

I presume the path there is correct? What are the permissions on that file? Is 
the owner root?

—
Pat

> On 10 Mar 2018, at 1:12 am, mrmanishs <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. I actually migrated to a new server and installed the latest version 
> of Sphinx/TS.
> 
> New server: Sphinx 3.0.2, TS 3.4.2 on Rails 5.1.5
> Old server: Sphinx 2.2.6, TS 3.2.0 on Rails 4.1.6
> 
> Could I have missed something in the upgrade that these symptoms may show?
> 
> I have disabled deltas for now to get it going, but it's not ideal.
> 
> 
> On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 8:58:02 AM UTC-5, Pat Allan wrote:
> Hmm. Have you tried running a rebuild? And has this problem started only 
> recently?
> 
> As a stop-gap solution, you could disable deltas and run the `ts:index` task 
> more regularly, but granted, that’s not ideal.
> 
>> On 9 Mar 2018, at 2:36 pm, mrmanishs <man...@ <>acceleweb.com 
>> <http://acceleweb.com/>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have nginx in front of passenger, so all the passenger log entries go into 
>> the nginx one. The only item in nginx is the url calls come back with a 500.
>> 
>> Thanks for the note.
>> 
>> Any other ideas? Also, up for doing some real-time debugging if it would 
>> help. I am not really sure what's going on and it's impacting functionality 
>> on site :(
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 5:14:47 PM UTC-5, Pat Allan wrote:
>> Hmm. Is there anything related to this issue in your passenger logs? And/or 
>> if you’re using nginx/apache/etc in front of that, their logs?
>> 
>> Unrelated, but: indexed_models is no longer needed/used by TS v3+.
>> 
>> —
>> Pat
>> 
>>> On 9 Mar 2018, at 1:04 am, mrmanishs <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Pat.
>>> 
>>> - searchd and nginx are both being run as root. Everything's root 
>>> actually...
>>> - I have searchd in /usr/local/bin and confirmed the production bin_path is 
>>> /usr/local/bin . I have this in my thinking_sphinx.yml file for prod:
>>> 
>>> production:
>>>   mysql41: 9401
>>>   configuration_file: "<path_to_config>"
>>>   log: "<path_to_log>"
>>>   query_log: "<path_to_query_log>"
>>>   pid_file: "<path_to_pid_file>"
>>>   min_infix_len: 3
>>>   bin_path: '/usr/local/bin'
>>>   indexed_models:
>>>         - Address
>>>   quiet_deltas: true
>>> 
>>> Any other thoughts?
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 11:45:43 PM UTC-5, Pat Allan wrote:
>>> Hi Manish,
>>> 
>>> I’m at a conference today, so please excuse the brevity, but it sounds like 
>>> this might be a permissions issue. See this note in the documentation:
>>> https://freelancing-gods.com/thinking-sphinx/common_issues.html#deltas 
>>> <https://freelancing-gods.com/thinking-sphinx/common_issues.html#deltas>
>>> (Both the deltas section and possibly the following section for passenger)
>>> 
>>> Certainly, real-time indices shouldn’t hit these issues, but you should 
>>> certainly be able to get your current setup working.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps!
>>> 
>>> —
>>> Pat
>>> 
>>>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 2:58 pm, mrmanishs <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> After further investigation, it looks like an issue with delta indexing. 
>>>> Is there a fix? Should real-time indices be used instead, is that a better 
>>>> approach?
>>>> 
>>>> On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 4:39:16 PM UTC-5, mrmanishs wrote:
>>>> Whenever I try to do anything in my app through passenger, I get an error 
>>>> similar to this:
>>>> 
>>>> F, [2018-03-07T21:35:13.949318 #30762] FATAL -- : 
>>>> [d6484d23-620d-4f33-8f17-13c12b7dab53] Riddle::CommandFailedError (Sphinx 
>>>> command failed to execute):
>>>> F, [2018-03-07T21:35:13.949426 #30762] FATAL -- : 
>>>> [d6484d23-620d-4f33-8f17-13c12b7dab53]
>>>> F, [2018-03-07T21:35:13.949536 #30762] FATAL -- : 
>>>> [d6484d23-620d-4f33-8f17-13c12b7dab53] 
>>>> app/controllers/listing_controller.rb:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That's all I get... no other information.
>>>> 
>>>> The same instructions work in console and there are no issues. Everything 
>>>> else on the rails app works fine.
>>>> 
>>>> Any idea? What else can I do to get more information?
>>>> 
>>>> Manish
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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