Troubleshooting BSODs, responses about 120 lines below after ***** Response_3*****
1. Re: Troubleshooting BSODs (Laurence Spiegel) 2. Do anti-malware and antivirus programs conflict if run concurrently? (Laurence Spiegel) 3. Re: Troubleshooting BSODs (Bruce Markowitz) 4. Re: Do anti-malware and antivirus programs conflict if run concurrently? (RayBay) 5. Re: Troubleshooting BSODs (RayBay) 6. Re: Do anti-malware and antivirus programs conflict if runconcurrently? (David Ross) 7. Re: Do anti-malware and antivirus programs conflict if runconcurrently? (Dale H. Cook) -----Inline Message Follows----- On 09.02.2009 04:22, you, Laurence Spiegel wrote: > I've set a chkdsk to be done this evening. I have PC doctor, can I > run enough tests from within windows or do I need to create a boot > CD? (No floppy drive). Why don't you run the diagnostics on the bootable CD you can create in Lenovo System ToolBox (http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-67520)? Or, if it's not compatible with your TP40, the similar diagnostics found in PC Doctor (http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-56222)? If yours is a hardware problem, you may find out about it (by running the diagnostics on one of the above bootable CD) even if your Windows install is screwed up. Cheers, Dominique -----Inline Message Follows----- A bad modem can cause a BSOD. Remove it and see what happens. On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Laurence Spiegel < [email protected]> wrote: > Do anti-malware and antivirus programs conflict if run concurrently? > (Diagnosing crashes on a Thinkpad). > > I'm currently running Avira Antivir, and recently intalled Spyware Doctor > (the Google download). While they ostensibly look for different issues, they > both monitor and block activity on the machine. Could they be conflicting? > Other than a hardware firewall, is there a better anti-malware solution? > > --- LS > _______________________________________________ > Thinkpad mailing list > [email protected] > http://stderr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/thinkpad > They don't really conflict in my experience, but they do slow each other down in significant ways. Spyware Doctor paid version has been one of the top three AntiSpyware for at least four years... along with Spy Sweeper... there is a lot of fluctuations of number three... ________ If you don't learn to laugh at trouble, you won't have anything to laugh at when you are old. . . . . . . . . . Will Rogers -----Inline Message Follows----- That is true... even if not connected or used as a modem. Ray ________ If you don't learn to laugh at trouble, you won't have anything to laugh at when you are old. . . . . . . . . . Will Rogers On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Bruce Markowitz <[email protected]>wrote: > A bad modem can cause a BSOD. Remove it and see what happens. ________ If you don't learn to laugh at trouble, you won't have anything to laugh at when you are old. . . . . . . . . . Will Rogers On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Bruce Markowitz <[email protected]>wrote: > A bad modem can cause a BSOD. Remove it and see what happens. > Do anti-malware and antivirus programs conflict if run concurrently? > (Diagnosing crashes on a Thinkpad). They can do, depending on how extensive the anti-malware component is. Incidentally, just last week I took Comodo firewall (which I generally like quite a lot) off one machine (non-ThinkPad) because when I installed XP Service Pack 3, I started getting BSODs, and after analysis Comodo was the cause. (it is now running Online Armor, also an excellent program.) The reason I switched to Comodo from ZoneAlarm was that ZA was giving me BSODs on my W2K machines. David > Do anti-malware and antivirus programs conflict if run concurrently? > (Diagnosing crashes on a Thinkpad). -----Inline Message Follows----- At 11:00 PM 2/10/2009, David Ross wrote: > The reason I switched to Comodo from ZoneAlarm was that ZA was giving me BSODs > on my W2K machines. Which version of ZA was causing that? Version 8 does not support Win2K. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html ____________________________________________________________ Free information on accounting careers, $150 hour potential. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1TjYsQ7Z4C9c39u3XCenWstrRFsnjtixxBBfw16BRf5F79V/ At 11:00 PM 2/10/2009, David Ross wrote: > The reason I switched to Comodo from ZoneAlarm was that ZA was giving me BSODs > on my W2K machines. Which version of ZA was causing that? Version 8 does not support Win2K. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/starcity.html ____________________________________________________________ Free information on accounting careers, $150 hour potential. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1TjYsQ7Z4C9c39u3XCenWstrRFsnjtixxBBfw16BRf5F79V/ -----Inline Message Follows----- 2. Re: Troubleshooting BSODs (Aryeh Goretsky (home)) Also depends on whether you are using the free versions of Avira and Spyware Doctor. The paid versions work much differently. The Avira paid version has a good version of Spyware on its own, but that may conflict with other Spyware, as we have seen many times on desktops in our shop. The free versions do not appear to conflict. ***** Response_3***** Troubleshooting T40 BSODs, response to several suggestions 1. Lenovo system tools CD was useful, but it's not clear where it leaves its log, it was not to be found on the HD. 2. I used the free versions of Avira and Spyware Doctor, in addition Spybot has resident programs running in the background. I will consolidate that to one suite from one vendor to avoid conflicts -- I'd noted some odd slowdows after PC Doc, no I understand why. 3. The modem is probably OK - the test which fails looks for a dial tone from a connected phone line, which is not available. The internal modem tests not requiring a live phone line pass. 4. I haven't had them for several days. Previously, once they started they became more frequent until the machine became unusable. It may be something different this time. 5. It looks like it's not obvious what's up this time but it's closer to being resolved. The 1st screen flicker sounds suspiciously like the T40 video chip issue, but running the full PC Doc hardware test suite booted off the CD for more than 12 hours did not crash the machine and the flicker has not returned.... yet. Z. How much would a spare used machine good enough for email, web, downloanding + xfering files to a T series while troubleshooting and playing occasional DVDs run? Preferable something smaller than a T. I crisp screen like my current machine's (hi-res) is the one luxury I'd include. Thanks to all for help with this issue. I'd like to call out Bruce and Ray especially; your pointers have been *very* valuable over several years. regards Larry _______________________________________________ Thinkpad mailing list [email protected] http://stderr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/thinkpad
