You need IE to perform tasks on www.microsoft.com, so if you are going to
use IE, use IE 7.0 or 8. for safest results.

Some people care about bloat when they already have all the memory they can
use, and harddrive free space they will never use.

I don't have time to worry about "bloat" unless it affects my use of my
computer... Have religiously avoided IE since Firefox came out.

However, we have four repair shops where we fix a lot of Dells and HP's.
There are now a lot of things you cannot do on well, if at all, on the Dell
and HP's site for downloading drivers or connecting for information.

I resent the fact that Dell and HP have been talked into remaining close to
Microsoft if that way... but there is nothing we can do about it.  Three
years ago, you could do any download or printing task with Firefox... not
now.


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This suspense is terrible. I hope it will last.

...   ....    .....     ......      .......       Oscar Wilde



On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Jonathan Berry <[email protected]>wrote:

> chrome?  I tried it and found it to be a resource hog.
> chrome does what it does well, but is it a full-featured
> browser?
>
> Between Mozilla Firefox and Opera 10 Beta 2, I haven't
> encountered a website that needs IE.  I have both installed.
> If a website doesn't work in FF, it'll work in Opera, and the
> other way around.  I never use IE.  Ever.
>
> >Or switch to chrome...
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> >Behalf Of John Toliver
> >Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 9:51 PM
> >To: [email protected]
> >Cc: thinkpad
> >Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Windows Explorer very sluggish or stops responding
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 18:15, RayBay <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Internet Explorer 8.0 has been guilty for a lot of the slowdowns,
> >> which are wisespread among Windows XP and Windows Vista users... You
> >> might try uninstalling it, then booting with Internet Explorer 6.11 or
> >> 7.0 for a while... do an online search for the variety of problems in
> >> IE8 that cause slow downs.
> >>
> >
> >I uninstalled IE8.  It took me back to IE 6 :-).  The thing I missed about
> >IE6 was if I were in my computer, I could put in a web address in the
> >address bar and windows explorer became internet explorer without missing
> a
> >beat so I get to enjoy that for a while so I test the change.  One thing I
> >noted immediately was windows didn't whine and complain on restart.  It
> went
> >down and came back up without my intervention.  I'll keep testing these
> >changes for a few days to see if IE8 was the culprit.  That would be bad
> if
> >it were because I actually like IE8.
> >
> >
> >> I would remove Spybot.  It really does nothing useful, and has some
> >> programs that slow down windows a lot... It is merely a Cookies
> >> remover, and of course all the cookies come back anyway... at least the
> >safe ones do.
> >
> >I didn't know spybot was no good.  Will remove later though.  I don't want
> >to remove too much at one time and skew my test.
> >
> >>
> >> Instead, I would use Windows Defender, MalwareBytes, and
> >> SuperAntiSpyware, and see what infestations they find and remove.
> >
> >
> >I already have Windows Defender.  Defender is more quiet than all of them.
> > I forgot it was installed.  All I know it does is it thrashes my HDD
> pretty
> >hard over night while it's doing scanning.
> >
> >
> >Matt: I checked the event log.  I have nothing that would indicate system
> >errors related to explorer.exe.  Been having weird problems with my
> wireless
> >card a broadcomm 2000BG.  Keeps falling off the network and rejoining it.
> > My system EL is loaded with tcpip warnings but nothing on windows
> explorer.
> > I attribute those to my router though so I didn't mention it here
> earlier.
> >
> >Thanks all,--
> >I've discovered the key to success is to never give up.  You either learn
> >the right way, or you run out of ways to do it wrong.  A win/win
> situation!
> >
>
> --
> happy
> Jonathan Berry and Erika http://members.shaw.ca/berry5868/fun.htm
>
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