I am assuming that, when using pop3.live.com, you also are not able to
download messages that Hotmail classifies as junk?  If it's not
inconvenient, can someone tell us how this behaves?  I have a US
account so I can't use the free POP access yet.

I ask because, it's annoying to have to log in to the web interface to
check for mail accidentally classified as junk, and I think they've
removed the option to completely disable the junk filter in Hotmail.
I'd rather just download all the mail and filter it client-side.  This
is why I really appreciate the Webmail extension's option to also
download the junk folder.  :-)

On Jan 20, 12:53 pm, Chris Clifton <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just tested this, if a mail is in a custom folder on Hotmail, it doesn't
> get downloaded using POP.
>
>
>
> alanrf wrote:
> > POP recognizes no folder information.  It is designed to only download
> > from the Inbox of the server.
>
> > On Jan 20, 10:32 am, Chris Clifton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> I don't know about other folders, I've only got the inbox in my Hotmail.
> >> You can set up filters to work on pretty much any information in the
> >> headers, if Hotmail doesn't add folder information, then you should be
> >> able to set up filters in TB that work in a similar way to any filters
> >> you have in Hotmail.
>
> >> Seb wrote:
>
> >>> It does work, but I'm wondering if I can still sort my emails with the
> >>> filters using headers, and if I can even download folders other than
> >>> the inbox...
>
> >>> On Jan 19, 2:27 am, Chris Clifton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> It is secured SMTP, TLS, but MS say in their instructions to use port
> >>>> 25, which is the default in Thunderbird, which doesn't work. Interesting
> >>>> to note that Google also use TLS and port 587 for their SMTP.
>
> >>>> alanrf wrote:
>
> >>>>> As usual MS decideds not to follow the rules.  Port 25 is the de facto
> >>>>> standard for unsecured SMTP.
>
> >>>>> Some antivirus products that scan email outbound make this assumption
> >>>>> and prevent the secure connection being made.  I know that this is the
> >>>>> case with avast.  Any avast user who wants the work around (other than
> >>>>> the one given above) so that port 25 can be used with a secure
> >>>>> connection let me know.
>
> >>>>> On Jan 18, 8:09 am, Chris Clifton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Yup! If you're in one of the countries listed in the pages djmaniak777
> >>>>>> linked to;
> >>>>>> <http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!3241...>
> >>>>>> <http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions/settings/archive/2009/01/13/pop3...>
> >>>>>> <http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions/settings/archive/2009/01/06/send...>
> >>>>>> Hotmail is now giving free POP3 access. It doesn't matter what email
> >>>>>> client or operating system you use you can get your Hotmail without any
> >>>>>> extra software.
> >>>>>> I'd guess that some people behind corporate firewalls may still need 
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> extensions, just as some people need them for Gmail. As Hotmail roll
> >>>>>> this out worldwide, we'll all be able to read our Hotmail in any email
> >>>>>> client of our choice.
>
> >>>>>> hagatha wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Does this work with Thunderbird & Hotmail.... on a PC?
>
> >>>>>>> hagatha
>
> >>>>>>> On Jan 18, 6:23 am, Chris Clifton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> That does the trick! same security and port number settings as Gmail.
>
> >>>>>>>> astro wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> I couldn't send on the default port 25 (either TLS or SSL), however
> >>>>>>>>> setting the smtp server to port 587 and TLS only seems to work fine
> >>>>>>>>> for some reason.  Not sure why this would be the case since I've 
> >>>>>>>>> never
> >>>>>>>>> had any issues with port 25 on my ISP before, so I can only assume 
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> problem is with hotmail itself.
>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 7:58 am, Chris Clifton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Well I've tried this with my UK based Hotmail.com account. I can 
> >>>>>>>>>> receive
> >>>>>>>>>> mails, but haven't yet been able to send through smtp.live.com.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> djmaniak777 wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> the details are here
> >>>>>>>>>>>http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!3241...
> >>>>>>>>>>>http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions/settings/archive/2009/01/13/pop3...
> >>>>>>>>>>>http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions/settings/archive/2009/01/06/send...
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 13, 8:15 pm, alanrf <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hotmail promised to open up free POP/SMTP access quite a long 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> time
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ago.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It is possible that they are doing this in certain regions where 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>>>>> are competing with local free Yahoo for example or it may 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> reflect that
> >>>>>>>>>>>> this is a paid for Hotmail Plus account that has always had 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> POP/SMTP
> >>>>>>>>>>>> server access.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It just tried this with a free Hotmail account here in the US 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> response was "pop3.live.com responded user does not have pop 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> access".
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 12, 10:59 am, plnk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I has used this extensions for couple of years but today I read 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hotmail now comes with pop3. I try it and it worked fine.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> POP3 with SSL: pop3.live.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> SMTP: smtp.live.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> User: tu direcció[email protected]
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for my english
>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
>
> >>>>>>>> --
>
> >>>>>> --
>
> >>>> --
>
> >> --
>
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