Let's try this again ... slowly. The POP protocol as available with the new free Hotmail POP/SMTP servers allows download o_n_l_y from the Inbox on the mail server. That means it c_a_n_n_n_o_t as in ever download from any other folder , be it junk, sent or your favorite folder. Remember too that POP3 recognizes no "read" status on the server ... so no more of those "download only unread messages" options. Also remember that the new free SMTP server will *not* save your messages sent from Thunderbird in the "Sent" folder on Hotmail.
If you want "special processing" then stick with the Hotmail extension ... if you want basic ... always works ... reliable .. then the POP server is for you. On Jan 26, 1:16 pm, Chris Clifton <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't recall whether I've had any mail marked as junk since using > pop3.live.com. I'm fairly certain that if I had, it wouldn't be downloaded. > In fact I've just checked and there is a junk mail on the website which > hasn't been downloaded. The only options for the junk filter seem to be > how aggressive it is, nothing that allows you to turn it off or tag junk > but leave it in your inbox. > > > > Aaron Kelley wrote: > > I am assuming that, when using pop3.live.com, you also are not able to > > download messages that Hotmail classifies as junk? If it's not > > inconvenient, can someone tell us how this behaves? I have a US > > account so I can't use the free POP access yet. > > > I ask because, it's annoying to have to log in to the web interface to > > check for mail accidentally classified as junk, and I think they've > > removed the option to completely disable the junk filter in Hotmail. > > I'd rather just download all the mail and filter it client-side. This > > is why I really appreciate the Webmail extension's option to also > > download the junk folder. :-) > > > On Jan 20, 12:53 pm, Chris Clifton <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Just tested this, if a mail is in a custom folder on Hotmail, it doesn't > >> get downloaded using POP. > > >> alanrf wrote: > > >>> POP recognizes no folder information. It is designed to only download > >>> from the Inbox of the server. > > >>> On Jan 20, 10:32 am, Chris Clifton <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> I don't know about other folders, I've only got the inbox in my Hotmail. > >>>> You can set up filters to work on pretty much any information in the > >>>> headers, if Hotmail doesn't add folder information, then you should be > >>>> able to set up filters in TB that work in a similar way to any filters > >>>> you have in Hotmail. > > >>>> Seb wrote: > > >>>>> It does work, but I'm wondering if I can still sort my emails with the > >>>>> filters using headers, and if I can even download folders other than > >>>>> the inbox... > > >>>>> On Jan 19, 2:27 am, Chris Clifton <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>> It is secured SMTP, TLS, but MS say in their instructions to use port > >>>>>> 25, which is the default in Thunderbird, which doesn't work. > >>>>>> Interesting > >>>>>> to note that Google also use TLS and port 587 for their SMTP. > > >>>>>> alanrf wrote: > > >>>>>>> As usual MS decideds not to follow the rules. Port 25 is the de facto > >>>>>>> standard for unsecured SMTP. > > >>>>>>> Some antivirus products that scan email outbound make this assumption > >>>>>>> and prevent the secure connection being made. I know that this is the > >>>>>>> case with avast. Any avast user who wants the work around (other than > >>>>>>> the one given above) so that port 25 can be used with a secure > >>>>>>> connection let me know. > > >>>>>>> On Jan 18, 8:09 am, Chris Clifton <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> Yup! If you're in one of the countries listed in the pages > >>>>>>>> djmaniak777 > >>>>>>>> linked to; > >>>>>>>> <http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!3241...> > >>>>>>>> <http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions/settings/archive/2009/01/13/pop3...> > >>>>>>>> <http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions/settings/archive/2009/01/06/send...> > >>>>>>>> Hotmail is now giving free POP3 access. It doesn't matter what email > >>>>>>>> client or operating system you use you can get your Hotmail without > >>>>>>>> any > >>>>>>>> extra software. > >>>>>>>> I'd guess that some people behind corporate firewalls may still need > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> extensions, just as some people need them for Gmail. As Hotmail roll > >>>>>>>> this out worldwide, we'll all be able to read our Hotmail in any > >>>>>>>> email > >>>>>>>> client of our choice. > > >>>>>>>> hagatha wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> Does this work with Thunderbird & Hotmail.... on a PC? > > >>>>>>>>> hagatha > > >>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 6:23 am, Chris Clifton <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> That does the trick! same security and port number settings as > >>>>>>>>>> Gmail. > > >>>>>>>>>> astro wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't send on the default port 25 (either TLS or SSL), > >>>>>>>>>>> however > >>>>>>>>>>> setting the smtp server to port 587 and TLS only seems to work > >>>>>>>>>>> fine > >>>>>>>>>>> for some reason. Not sure why this would be the case since I've > >>>>>>>>>>> never > >>>>>>>>>>> had any issues with port 25 on my ISP before, so I can only > >>>>>>>>>>> assume the > >>>>>>>>>>> problem is with hotmail itself. > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 7:58 am, Chris Clifton <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Well I've tried this with my UK based Hotmail.com account. I can > >>>>>>>>>>>> receive > >>>>>>>>>>>> mails, but haven't yet been able to send through smtp.live.com. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> djmaniak777 wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the details are here > >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!3241... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions/settings/archive/2009/01/13/pop3... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions/settings/archive/2009/01/06/send... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 13, 8:15 pm, alanrf <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hotmail promised to open up free POP/SMTP access quite a long > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> time > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is possible that they are doing this in certain regions > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> where they > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are competing with local free Yahoo for example or it may > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reflect that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a paid for Hotmail Plus account that has always had > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> POP/SMTP > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> server access. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It just tried this with a free Hotmail account here in the US > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> response was "pop3.live.com responded user does not have pop > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> access". > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 12, 10:59 am, plnk <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I has used this extensions for couple of years but today I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hotmail now comes with pop3. I try it and it worked fine. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> POP3 with SSL: pop3.live.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SMTP: smtp.live.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> User: tu direcció[email protected] > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for my english > > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>> -- > > >> -- > > -- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thunderbird Webmail Extension" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/thunderbird-webmail-extension?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
