#2942: ACL model behavior `alias` default value
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Reporter: nukem | Owner: Any Developer
Type: Enhancement | Status: closed
Priority: Low | Milestone: 1.2.x.x
Component: ACL (Access Control List) | Version: RC1
Severity: Trivial | Resolution: wontfix
Keywords: | Php_version: PHP 4 >= 4.3.2
Cake_version: |
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Comment (by nate):
@mhagedon: Going against my normal MO, I'm going to respond to you in
proper, polite, and relatively lengthy explanatory fashion, in hopes that
I will be able to refer back to my notes here at a later date, thereby
saving myself time and effort down the road.
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First, let me address your point about influence. While I appreciate your
interest in CakePHP, and that you hold sway over the opinions of others,
I'm not going to feel offended if you choose not to use or promote it. We
have a vibrant, thriving, and fairly large community of developers who are
quite happy with it, which thrills me to no end. These people have chosen
CakePHP because they find it useful and (I hope) enjoyable, however, I
don't consider it a favor to me that they do so. I (and others on the
core team) develop CakePHP in my spare time, at no charge and for no
compensation. If you derive some value from our hard work, so much the
better for you.
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That's sort of my nice way of saying "don't act like I owe you anything".
I am under no compulsion to serve your needs, and you do yourself a
disservice by suffering delusions to the contrary. That said, I am more
than happy to listen to any compelling arguments about what we do or don't
do around here, as far as the code is concerned. If it works, that's all
I care about.
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Good, now that that's out of the way, we can move on to your point about
my percieved arrogance. This is a common misconception, given my often-
abrasive responses, and my generally dismissive attitude towards most
people. However, arrogance relates to an exaggerated self-importance,
which I don't have. I don't feel that I'm particularly special compared
to most programmers -- I'm simply impatient. This is likely a by-product
my short attention span, combined with the fact that, on most days (today
included) I have a s**t-ton of work to do.
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Ergo, I tend to avoid protracted discussions (like this one), and try to
avoid having to give explanations of why things are a certain way,
''especially'' if such explanations can be found elsewhere. In this case,
the ACL section of the manual clearly demonstrates two different
approaches to using ARO/ACO nodes. In one, nodes are "bound" to a record,
and have a model name/foreign key that corresponds to that record. This
example clearly shows that the 'alias' fields of these records is left
null. Likewise, the example that uses aliases clearly shows null values
in the model name and foreign key fields.
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As such, one can logically infer that there are two separate and distinct
ways to reference ACL objects, and further, given that the system provides
no facility for intermingling the two, that they're not intended to be
used together in the same ARO/ACO record.
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This goes to the very core of understanding my response. No time was
taken to understand the ''intent'' of the system, or what it was
''designed'' to do. Rather, people simply chose to persistently demand
the same thing. As I stated previously, I only care about what works. If
you disagree with a design decision, feel free to point out the
deficiencies and offer a solution, '''but do so from the standpoint of how
the system under discussion was designed to operate in the first place'''.
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In summary, I hope this response has been informative and enlightening.
Have a nice day.
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- Nate
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