Doug

Yes, the topology has be known, although it can change (reroute events) as long 
as we are informed of this.

For ToD distribution it is a bit less elegant than running full CTP,
but it gives you a better feeling for what is happening.

I think it could go well with MPLS-TP, or even better with MPLS and a PCE box
(which not only knows the topology, but could optimize the timing paths).

Y(J)S

From: Doug Arnold [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 20:22
To: Yaakov Stein; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [TICTOC] interesting article on a global mechanism for one-way 
delay measurement

Thanks Yaakov,

This is an interesting idea.  It does require the that complete paths be known 
and controlled.  Perhaps it could be used in conjunction with MPLS.

//Doug

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Yaakov Stein
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 9:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TICTOC] interesting article on a global mechanism for one-way delay 
measurement

Hi all,

I have recently been working time distribution in the presence of strong 
asymmetry,
and have come across a method that helps in certain cases.

I am sure that you all remember the CTP algorithm that I have brought up before
(and presented at IETF-74).

The same academic group has an earlier article that I had previously overlooked.
I am talking about :

Gurewitz O, Sidi M.
Estimating One-Way Delays from Cyclic Path Delay Measurements.
16th IEEE INFOCOM 2001, Anchorage, Alaska. 
[PDF<http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~gurewitz/4.pdf>]


This article gives a procedure for determining one-way delays
based purely on round-trip delay measurements (i.e., what we would call T4-T1),
knowledge of topology, and the assumption of additivity of propagation delays.

The idea is that nodes measure round-trip times to various other nodes,
knowing which nodes are traversed.
For example, assume three nodes connected in a triangle
                   1
                /      \
              /          \
            2  --------  3
and we measure the times for the following paths
 1 2 3
 2 3 2
 3 1 3
 1 2 3 1
We thus have 4 equations for 6 variables
(since the links are not assumed symmetric, the variables are D1-2, D2-1, D2-3, 
D3-2, D1-3, D3-1 ).
Using additivity and non-negativity it turns out that one can solve an 
optimization problem
which minimizes the error of these equations.

The solution requires a centralized server to do the math PCE-style,
but solves a problem that I don't know any other way to solve.

Comments ?

Y(J)S


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