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From: Shahram Davari [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:14 PM
To: Greg Mirsky; Bhatia, Manav (Manav); Amit Oren; [email protected]; Roberts, 
Peter (Peter)
Subject: RE: [TICTOC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tictoc-1588overmpls-02.txt

Hi Greg,

Here are our suggested resolution to your comments. Please let us know whether 
they are satisfactory.

Thx
Shahram

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Date: Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: [TICTOC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tictoc-1588overmpls-02.txt
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Dear Authors, et al.,
below are my notes to the latest version of the document. thank you for your 
kind consideration.

 *   Abstract. In last paragraph UDP/IP encapsulation presented as more 
preferable for IP/MPLS PSN while Ethernet PW as more preferable for MPLS-TP 
PSN. I think that applicability statements will benefit from more extensive and 
argumented discussion.
SD> suggest simply removing the last paragraph from the Abstract.

 *   Section 5, third para. Since MPLS-TP is a subset of MPLS statement "The 
PTP LSP MAY be MPLS LSP or MPLS-TP LSP" might be not the most accurate form of 
expression. At the same time the fourth paragraph suggests that PTP LSP might 
be configured by NMS (static configuration) or signaled by RSVP-TE/GMPLS. Have 
to note that RSVP-TE/GMPLS signaling is applicable only to MPLS-TP PSN. IP/MPLS 
LSPs are LDP signaled, MPLS-TE LSPs are signaled via RSVP-TE/MPLS.
SD> Suggest adding the following clarification: "MPLS or MPLS-TP LSP may be 
used. The LSPs are P2P (not P2MP) and that they could be unidirectional or 
co-routed bidirectional LSPs.  The setup could use either manual configuration 
or RSVP-TE."

 *   Section 6.1 Statement "In order for an LSR to process PTP messages, the 
PTP Label must be the top label of the label stack" implies that Facility 
Backup MPLS FRR should not be used for PTP LSP. Further in Section 8 suggested 
that FRR Backup tunnel label must be as well associated with the PTP 
application. I'll note that then all LSPs that to be protected by this PTP 
Backup will be viewed as PTP LSPs and that might be undesirable. I think that 
Facility Backup FRR is not practical local protection for PTP LSP.

SD> A dedicated FRR tunnel only carries PTP LSPs and therefore the issue you 
mention won't arise. We suggest clarification by adding this text: "FRR tunnel 
that use PTP label shall only carry PTP LSPs."


 *   Section 6.2, p.11, third para. A "PTP label range" is first time referred 
here. How this range is defined? Where it is defined - across all MPLS PSN or 
only along particular PTP LSP?
SD> This is a typo and is a remainder from first version. We will remove the 
term Range.

 *   Section 6.2, p.11, third para "... the PW label may be the top label in 
the stack, such as cases where there is only one-hop between PEs or in case of 
PHP ..." illustrates the same as text at the top of p.12
SD> Suggestion is to delete Para 3 of section 6.2 since it is redundant.

 *   section 6.2, p.12 refers not to "PTP label range" but to some mechanism to 
associate a label, PW label, with PTP application. Are there two mechanisms to 
make a label into a PTP application label - static and dynamic? Where PTP 
Association extensions will be defined?
SD> Type. We will delete the term Range.

 *   Section 10, p.17. s/G-ACH/G-ACh/ Will note that VCCV Type 1 Control 
Channel is ACH, not G-ACH.
SD> Typo. Will correct as per your suggestion.

Regards,
Greg
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Date: Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:23 PM
Subject: [TICTOC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tictoc-1588overmpls-02.txt
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. 
This draft is a work item of the Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of 
Clock Working Group of the IETF.

       Title           : Transporting PTP messages (1588) over MPLS Networks
       Author(s)       : Shahram Davari
                         Amit Oren
                         Manav Bhatia
                         Peter Roberts
                         Laurent Montini
       Filename        : draft-ietf-tictoc-1588overmpls-02.txt
       Pages           : 34
       Date            : 2011-10-06

  This document defines the method for transporting PTP messages (PDUs)
  over an MPLS network.  The method allows for the easy identification
  of these PDUs at the port level to allow for port level processing of
  these PDUs in both LERs and LSRs.

  The basic idea is to transport PTP messages inside dedicated MPLS
  LSPs.  These LSPs only carry PTP messages and possibly Control and
  Management packets, but they do not carry customer traffic.

  Two methods for transporting 1588 over MPLS are defined.  The first
  method is to transport PTP messages directly over the dedicated MPLS
  LSP via UDP/IP encapsulation, which is suitable for IP/MPLS networks.
  The second method is to transport PTP messages inside a PW via
  Ethernet encapsulation, which is more suitable for MPLS-TP networks.


A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
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