>>> Joseph Gwinn <[email protected]> schrieb am 21.10.2022 um 00:05 in Nachricht <[email protected]>: > On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 09:47:07 ‑0400, John C Klensin wrote: >> Carsten, >> >> You have just gone where I didn't want to go (at least on‑list) >> because it might take us into some IETF/IAB political issues >> (past and present) but, yes, your students are good at their >> work. Some generalizations (with the understanding that a few >> details might be close but not exactly right these days): >> > [big snip ‑ all good points for sure] > > We seem to be drifting off the target here. And the graybeards may > remember when ISO‑OSI was swamped by TCP/IPv4 and Ethernet. > > The big problem is that most people cannot access ISO standards at > any remotely plausible effort and price. Even very large companies > find the expense of maintaining current versions of ISO standards > impractical. > > So these standards are specified far more than they are followed. > > So, what remedy is practical? In areas of conflict, it may be > necessary to explicitly override ISO, because the world didn't go > that way.
Hi! A good summary, I'd say. My final essence would be: While in IT it's preferable to reference instead of copying, there is a problem if the referenced objects vanish. So in some cases copying may be preferable. Eventually I wonder how much legal it is to extract the essence of an ISO standard to a Wikipedia article or part of an RFC (e.g. instead of writing "as defined in ISO XXX", writing "using ... according to ISO XXX"). I see such copying would harm the ISO business model, however. Regards, Ulrich Windl > > Joe Gwinn > > _______________________________________________ > ntp mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ntp _______________________________________________ TICTOC mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tictoc
