TidBITS#768/28-Feb-05
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Apple's release of new iPod models set the stage for an issue
that's unintentionally focused on digital music. We note the
updates to the iPod mini and iPod photo (and what's missing),
and Adam finds a surprising use for his music player: as sleep
aid. He also performs some much-needed iTunes library maintenance
using the iEatBrainz and MPFreaker utilities. Also in this issue,
we point out Apple's Security Update 2005-002 and Firefox 1.0.1,
look at the new Site Crossing hosting service, and mourn the
passing of Macintosh pioneer Jef Raskin.
Topics:
MailBITS/28-Feb-05
In Memoriam: Jef Raskin, 1943-2005
Apple Freshens iPod mini, iPod photo Lines
Site Crossing Offers Inexpensive Web Crossing Hosting
Cleaning House in iTunes
iPods Defeating Insomnia
Take Control News/28-Feb-05
Hot Topics in TidBITS Talk/28-Feb-05
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**Security Update 2005-002 Fixes Java** -- Apple has released
Security Update 2005-002 to eliminate a vulnerability through
which an untrusted Java applet could gain increased privileges
and potentially execute arbitrary code. The fix applies only to
Java 1.4.2 (and thus Mac OS X 10.3.4 or later); previous Java
releases are not affected. The update is available via Software
Update and as a separate 16.4 MB download. [ACE]
<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300980>
<http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/
securityupdate2005002macosx1034orlater.html>
**Firefox 1.0.1 Security Update Released** -- The Mozilla
Organization last week released Firefox 1.0.1 for all platforms,
which fixes a number of small security holes or potential
problems, notably the homograph spoofing problem we've talked
about recently in TidBITS (see "Don't Trust Your Eyes or URLs"
in TidBITS-766_). The updated version includes a new preference,
network.IDN_show_punycode, which is set to true. (To access this
preference, enter "about:config" in the Location field and press
Return; it's probably easiest to then type "IDN" in the Filter
field to display the preference.)
<http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/all.html>
<http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html>
<http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=07983>
Instead of seeing the actual display of international characters
in domain names, you'll see the punycode or Unicode-to-Roman
mapping when you visit a site that is attempting to pass
itself off as another site using this technique. The Shmoo
Group, which exposed this visual vulnerability, have a
demonstration on their site. The second o in shmoo in the
links at the top of that page is a homograph, or a letter
that looks like another letter. Before Firefox 1.0.1, the
links and the destination of the fake domains at the top
of that page would read "http://www.theshmoogroup.com/";.
Now they appear as "http://www.xn--theshmogroup-bgk.com/";.
<http://www.shmoo.com/idn/>
The English version of Firefox 1.0.1 for Mac OS X is an
8.7 MB download; note that not all language versions have
been updated yet.
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In Memoriam: Jef Raskin, 1943-2005
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by Glenn Fleishman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
We'd heard recently that one of the fathers of the Macintosh was
seriously ill, and last week brought the news that Jef Raskin
passed away.
<http://digibarn.com/friends/jef-raskin/>
Raskin is widely acknowledged as the person who created many
theoretical underpinnings of modern personal computing and then
pulled together many threads of his own and others to create
a team at Apple that would eventually produce the first Mac.
Raskin was forced out of Apple in 1982 as Steve Jobs took an ever
greater interest in the Macintosh. He could be prickly, fighting
what was often a rear-guard battle against revisionist history,
ignorance of his role, and occasional indifference. Reporters like
myself often received long email messages about what he perceived
as our errors in reporting (or not reporting) his role.
But he was also apparently an incredibly generous and creative
person, devoted to improving the relationship between people and
computers which, by extension, would give people more control over
their creative abilities. Raskin's work since leaving Apple has
centered on the Humane Interface, an entirely new and sometimes
hard-to-grasp approach to interaction. It was just like him to
create something simultaneously mystifying, fascinating,
inscrutable, and potentially indispensable.
He was a renaissance man of the kind found only, these days,
in technology fields: a musician, an artist, a computer science
theorist, and a practical builder. Consider the way in which
he resigned from the University of California, San Diego:
"When I resigned I got into a hot air balloon in the middle
of Revelle Plaza and flew over the Chancellor's residence
playing my sopranino recorder so that he would hear the sound.
He came out and I yelled down that I was resigning and floated
off. I was an art professor at the time and it seemed arty to
leave that way."
<http://jef.raskincenter.org/published/ubiquity.html>
The world is poorer without Jef Raskin sometimes chiding, always
teaching, always engaged.
Apple Freshens iPod mini, iPod photo Lines
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by Mark H. Anbinder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Apple expanded its wildly successful iPod family of portable music
players last week, lowering prices and adding new capacities to
the iPod mini and iPod photo product lines.
With its 4 GB capacity and new, lower price of $200 in the U.S.,
the basic iPod mini, which also gains extended battery life
(the company claims "up to 18 hours"), fills the midrange gap
between the $100-$150 iPod shuffle and the previously pricier
models starting at $250. A new 6 GB model takes over the $250
price point. The new iPod minis are available now worldwide
in metallic silver, pink, blue, and green hues (gold, one of
the original iPod mini colors, apparently lost its luster).
<http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=07494>
<http://www.apple.com/ipodmini/>
At the same time, Apple is offering a slimmer 30 GB model of its
iPod photo, featuring a color screen and video connector for photo
slide shows for $350, down $150 from the price of the original
(now discontinued) 40 GB iPhoto photo. The 60 GB unit drops from
$600 to $450. Both models are available immediately worldwide.
(The 40 GB Click Wheel iPod has also quietly disappeared from
Apple's lineup, leaving the original lineage with only the 20 GB
model, at $300, and the 20 GB U2 Special Edition model for $350.)
<http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=07877>
<http://www.apple.com/ipodphoto/>
The new lineup is also notable for what's missing. Both the
iPod mini and iPod photo models come with USB 2.0 cables for
transferring data and recharging the internal battery. If you
want to use FireWire, you need to buy an optional $20 iPod Dock
Connector to FireWire cable. A $20 iPod photo AV cable is needed
to view photos on a television, or the $30 iPod photo Dock offers
an S-video connector (as well as audio out and the Dock
connector).
A new $30 iPod Camera Connector, expected to ship in late March,
will enable photographers to free up limited camera storage card
space by transferring photos to the iPod (check Apple's site
to verify compatibility with your camera before buying). Once
transferred, the photos can be displayed on the iPod photo's
built-in color screen or, after previously being connected to
a computer, on a television through the unit's video connector,
and they can later be moved to a Mac or Windows PC.
Site Crossing Offers Inexpensive Web Crossing Hosting
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by Adam C. Engst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Over the last year, you've heard me talking about how we're moving
all of our Internet services to an Xserve running Web Crossing,
which is an integrated suite of Internet servers, all backed
up by a high-performance object-oriented database and its own
programming language. The amount of custom code necessary for
our specific situation has caused the project to take longer
than would be ideal, but overall, I've been extremely happy
with the functionality Web Crossing has provided.
<http://www.webcrossing.com/>
However, it's been hard to recommend Web Crossing to individuals
or small organizations because of the cost and complexity of
setting up your own server - after all, this is the same software
that runs discussion forums for the likes of Apple, Salon, and
the New York Times, so power and flexibility has long trumped
a straightforward interface.
Now Web Crossing, Inc. has addressed those concerns with Site
Crossing, a new hosted service that provides a simple and
integrated interface for managing interactive services like
mailing lists, discussion forums, weblogs, polls, a shared
calendar, file libraries, slideshows, and live chat. Such
complex features can be difficult to add to existing Web sites,
particularly in conjunction with a unified user database and
access lists (to keep private sections away from the public),
making Site Crossing useful as an adjunct to an existing site.
Site Crossing also provides full email, FTP, and Web services,
making it possible to build an entire Web site around Site
Crossing.
<http://www.sitecrossing.com/>
The Basic account costs $8 per month for 3 of the interactive
services, 1 GB of storage space, and 10 GB of data transfer per
month. The $14 per month Standard account offers 6 interactive
services, 2.5 GB of storage space, and 20 GB per month of data
transfer. Lastly, the Advanced account will set you back $22 per
month for 12 interactive services, 6 GB of storage space, and
30 GB of data transfer per month. If you need even more, full-
fledged Web Crossing hosting is available. You can also purchase
your own private domain name and have Web Crossing host it for
$20 per year. You can try Site Crossing for free for 30 days,
so it's easy to see if it will meet your specific needs.
Obviously, there are oodles of companies offering Web hosting
plans with a variety of features and at a variety of price points,
but I think Site Crossing and its interactive features are worthy
of consideration particularly by clubs, schools, and other small
groups without a lot of resources or technical experience. Such
groups often run into difficulties with the decisions of where to
host a Web site that won't disappear with a volunteer, and with
the problem of technically sophisticated members leaving. I can
think of a few organizations we're involved with that could use
such a service.
Cleaning House in iTunes
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by Adam C. Engst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Leaving aside all the legal and ethical considerations of
downloading unauthorized music from the Internet, one of the
things that's always bothered me is the horrible metadata that
most shared tracks seem to have. It's entirely common to end up
with files with barely descriptive names and completely blank
ID3 tags for the artist and album. I hate that. I also dislike
the duplicates that can results from accidentally importing tracks
multiple times, which is all too easy with multiple people sharing
the same library, as Tonya and I do. Call me a neat freak, but
I can't stand a messy database, and the iTunes Library is
essentially a database of track information.
It was time to clean house.
**Clearing Duplicates** -- I started with a new feature in iTunes
4.7: the Show Duplicate Songs command in the Edit menu. It's a
little brain-dead, in that it appears to match only on track name,
but it's better than nothing. iTunes identified over 200 duplicate
songs, most of which were legitimate duplicates stemming from
greatest hits albums, covers by other artists, or poor song names.
Ideally, the Show Duplicate Songs feature would evolve to give
the user additional control, so I could, for instance see only
songs with the same name, artist, and album, and only then if
they were the same length. Nonetheless, it was useful for clearing
out a few complete duplicates.
**Identifying Unknowns** -- After removing the duplicates, I was
still left with 121 tracks that had incomplete metadata and
thus offended my sense of order. Some were authorized tracks
I'd downloaded from artist Web sites, others were tracks I'd
downloaded because I own the record albums, a few were samples
from various venues, and a number were entirely unidentifiable
(even when I listened to them).
I didn't want to put the effort into listening to each track
with incomplete metadata and manually updating the tags. Instead,
I downloaded Jay Tuley's free iEatBrainz utility (1 MB download),
which attempts to match the musical fingerprint of a track in
iTunes with one in the MusicBrainz database, a Web-based database
of fingerprints and metadata for over 2.5 million songs. It's
a clever idea and I was curious about how well it would work.
<http://www.indyjt.com/software/?show=ieatbrainz#ieatbrainz>
<http://www.musicbrainz.org/>
I selected the 121 tracks in my library that lacked artist or
album tags, and then I fed them to iEatBrainz to see if it could
find a match. It wasn't exactly speedy, and its fingerprint
matching algorithm wasn't terribly accurate, but in the end,
iEatBrainz managed to present me with what seemed like correct
metadata for 54 of the 121 tracks. Many of the rest it couldn't
find at all, and for some it guessed completely wrong. But hey,
54 out of 121 is way better than nothing.
**Filling in the Blanks** -- I was still left with a nagging
feeling that the metadata in my iTunes Library wasn't as complete
as it could be. iTunes ships with a sample smart playlist called
"60's Music" that looks for tracks whose year is between 1960 and
1969. But although I have a lot of music from the Beatles, Doors,
and Simon & Garfunkel, that smart playlist contained only 41
tracks. For whatever reason, when I'd ripped my CDs years ago,
the CDDB didn't give me the year information. And, of course,
I was lacking artwork for most of my albums, the ripping of
which predated the appearance of that feature in iTunes.
I'd come across LairWare's $20 MPFreaker, and decided to give it
a spin. MPFreaker promises to fill in the blanks in your iTunes
metadata, downloading better information from online databases.
MPFreaker can fix nearly everything related to a song, including
title, album, artwork, genre, year, and track number. You can feed
MPFreaker a few songs manually, point it at a playlist, or give
it your entire iTunes Library. I was unsure of what it would do,
so I started with a few songs, tested a small playlist, and then
I finally bit the bullet and ran it against my library. In each
case, MPFreaker worked fine, although I was careful not to check
the Overwrite checkbox for each of the pieces of metadata that
MPFreaker can update, figuring that any data I already had was
fine.
<http://www.lairware.com/mpfreaker/>
MPFreaker performed wonders, adding year and artwork information
to many - though not all - of my songs. It wasn't particularly
fast, but considering I had handed it 4,100 songs to check, I
was neither surprised nor bothered. One slight oddity did present
itself; after the first run, my 60's Music smart playlist had
grown to over 200 songs. But when I created another smart playlist
to see how many tracks still lacked year information, there were
nearly 900. A second run of MPFreaker picked up year information
for a number of additional songs; I'm not entirely sure why.
As long as you're careful not to overwrite data mistakenly, and
you don't mind the occasional low-resolution artwork, MPFreaker
is a fabulous utility for cleaning, regularizing, and filling in
the blanks in your iTunes Library. You can try the demo on three
songs per launch; otherwise it's a 2.4 MB download.
Now, if you don't mind, I need to go listen to my database.
iPods Defeating Insomnia
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by Adam C. Engst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Like many people, Tonya and I sometimes have trouble falling
asleep at night. We do interesting work, and we have oodles of
ideas for the future, so it's all too easy to let those thoughts
start cycling through our brains when we should be going to sleep.
Annoyingly, the problem is exacerbated by working long hours;
the later in the evening we work, the closer to the surface all
the work thoughts are, and the harder it is to catch some shuteye.
And, of course, if we lose sleep because of work-induced insomnia,
our efforts the next day suffer.
But we've stumbled across a tremendously effective solution to
this problem, all thanks to the iPod, which until now we've used
primarily in the car and as an alarm clock (in conjunction with
a Tivoli Audio Model 3 with a satellite speaker).
<http://www.tivoliaudio.com/product.php?productid=145>
<http://www.tivoliaudio.com/product.php?productid=147>
**Books in the Car** -- At Thanksgiving, we were driving to New
York City to spend the holiday with relatives, and since it's
a 4-hour drive, I wanted to have some audio books to listen on
the way. A friend had given me a referral code to Audible.com
that provided me with two free books, so I downloaded an
unabridged version of "A Short History of Nearly Everything,"
by Bill Bryson, whose travelogue about Australia, "In a
Sunburned Country," I'd enjoyed hugely. "A Short History of
Nearly Everything" is a popularization of numerous fields of
science, ranging from cosmology to geology to biology, and
I highly recommend both it and Bryson's mellifluous writing
in general (the first two links point to the iTunes Music Store;
the second two to paper copies of the books on Amazon).
<http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?
playlistId=3255416&selectedItemId=3255416>
<http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?
playlistId=2629292&selectedItemId=2629292>
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/076790818X/tidbitselectro00/
ref%3Dnosim/>
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0767903862/tidbitselectro00/
ref%3Dnosim/>
**Books in Bed** -- We didn't end up with much time to listen
to the audio book in the car over Thanksgiving, so it was still
on the iPod when we returned home. Then came a 2-week period
in which we released three Take Control ebooks and worked late
almost every night. After a few days of this, Tonya came
downstairs around 10:30 PM and moaned that she needed to relax
so she could sleep, but she didn't want to watch television
because most of the shows we enjoy tend to induce stress on
their own, nor did she want to read a book after a long day of
staring at the computer screen. Without even appreciating what
I was saying, just scratching the itch of an unfinished book,
I suggested we could listen to the Bill Bryson audio book.
Tonya was dismissive at once: "But it would put me to sleep
instantly!" And then I realized. "Isn't that the goal?"
So we got ready for bed, set the iPod for a 15-minute sleep timer
(which causes the iPod to shut off automatically, remembering
its position in the current track), and started the audio book
where we last remembered listening. I think Tonya was awake for
approximately 45 seconds, and while I lasted a bit longer (I'm one
of those people who never falls asleep reading or watching TV),
I was surprised the next night at just how far I had to rewind
to return to where I remembered the story.
Since then, we've listened to the audio book nearly every night,
and Tonya refused to let me take the iPod to Macworld Expo, since
she has even more trouble falling asleep when I'm traveling. She
fully admits that she's retaining almost nothing, since she falls
asleep so quickly, and although I'm keeping more of it in my head,
my recall is highly spotty. Despite childhood dreams of learning
in one's sleep, it's just not happening. Tonya claims she sees no
reason to listen to any other audio books, since she remembers
almost none of this one, so she would be perfectly happy to pick
up other several-minute chunks of it on subsequent listenings.
As to why listening to this audio book works so well for helping
us fall asleep, I can only speculate. The act of listening seems
to quiet the voices in our heads, the ones that are busy cycling
through what's on the schedule for the next day, who we should
send email to about what, and how we might accomplish certain
tasks. Once those voices have been silenced, it's easier to let
go of the day and drift into sleep. Tonya thinks she's falling
into a deep sleep sooner too, which has the added benefit of
enabling her to wake up earlier than before.
It's entirely possible that our experience was a stroke of luck,
since I wouldn't be surprised if this particular audio book was
just about perfect for helping us drop off at night. It's non-
fiction, and although Bryson tells stories, they tend to be short
and self-contained, so you aren't trying to stay awake to find
out what happens next. A pot-boiler might not work. At the same
time, we both have scientific backgrounds and sufficient interest
that we want to listen; a dull book might simply become droning
background noise. Also, the reader (not Bryson himself) is an
Englishman, with a pleasant accent; although I've never listened
to an audio book with a terrible reader, I understand they exist.
Someone with a grating voice would undoubtedly be problematic.
In the end, I'm mainly surprised that such a prosaic combination
should prove so life-changing. We've had the iPod for almost a
year, and although this was the first audio book we downloaded
from Audible.com, I had certainly planned on doing so for car
trips. And while we've used the iPod to play music in the bedroom
through the Tivoli Audio Model 3, using the sleep timer to listen
to music wasn't sufficiently engaging to clamp down on those
voices in our heads. The combination we hit upon may not involve
glamorous new technology (and would likely work with plain old
cassette tapes as well), but it is highly effective. So all I
can say is that sometimes great solutions to tough problems are
in plain sight all along. If you too have trouble nodding off,
give the iPod and audio book combination a try.
Take Control News/28-Feb-05
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by Adam C. Engst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
One of our goals for the Take Control ebooks was to be able to
produce books and updates shortly after new software appeared.
Late last week, we released the first two titles to cover
GarageBand 2.0, part of the new iLife '05 suite. It's nice
to avoid waiting for printing, binding, and shipment times
to get timely information out the door.
<http://www.tidbits.com/takecontrol/news/>
**Take Control Ebooks First To Cover GarageBand 2.0** -- Author
Jeff Tolbert and the Take Control crew burned some midnight oil
to produce these ebooks so quickly, and we are pleased to bring
you our take on GarageBand 2.0 in the form of the second editions
of both "Take Control of Making Music with GarageBand" (how to
mix your creative talents with GarageBand's loops and effects)
and "Take Control of Recording with GarageBand" (real-world
advice for how to get great results recording instruments with
GarageBand).
<http://www.tidbits.com/takecontrol/garageband-music.html>
<http://www.tidbits.com/takecontrol/garageband-recording.html>
"Take Control of Making Music with GarageBand" grew significantly,
adding 17 pages. Notable changes include info about using
GarageBand 2.0's cool new notation view, a look at pan curves
(they make dynamic panning a snap!), and coverage of several new
(and more advanced) techniques for working with loops. The ebook
also discusses the new track locking feature, which reduces
GarageBand 2.0 CPU usage and prevents you from accidentally
messing up a track.
If you purchased "Take Control of Making Music with GarageBand"
before 01-Dec-04, you may upgrade for $2.50: click the Check
for Updates button on the first page of your current copy of
the ebook and purchase using the Buy button at the bottom of
the Web page that loads in your browser. Those who purchased on
or after 01-Dec-04 may upgrade for free; if we have your email
address and were able to get email through to you, you should
have an email message from us about how to download your free
update. If not, check your spam filter and then (if necessary)
contact us using the form on our FAQ page.
<http://www.tidbits.com/takecontrol/faq.html>
Important changes in "Take Control of Recording with GarageBand"
discuss new features in GarageBand 2.0, including multitrack
recording, Bass Amp and Vocal Transformer effects, and the
built-in tuner. The update is free to all owners of version 1.0
of the ebook. To get your update, click the Check for Updates
button on the first page of your ebook and use the download link
on the Web page that loads in your browser.
**Joe Kissell Interviewed on Your Mac Life** -- Want to hear Joe
Kissell talking about Take Control and Mac OS X backups? Me too -
it's always fun to hear what other people say about you on the
radio. Last week, Joe was on Shawn King's Your Mac Life program,
and you can listen to the archive via QuickTime Player. The whole
program is a couple of hours long, but if you don't have time
to listen to the entire thing, Joe starts at about 46:30 in and
returns at about 1:18:00.
<http://www.yourmaclife.com/article.php?story=20050224092123814>
<http://www.tidbits.com/takecontrol/backup-macosx.html>
**AAUG Reviews "Take Control of Buying a Mac"** -- Thanks to
the Alaskan Apple Users Group for yet another review of our
Take Control ebooks. This time, my "Take Control of Buying a Mac"
garnered their 4.5 moose rating (I love the concept of the moose
as a unit of measurement). Their criticisms are perfectly
accurate; I don't mention the Apple Store for Government Employees
or the Mac mini, but both are slated for the next revision.
In fact, I've put a few notes about changes the Mac mini will
require on the book's Updates page; just click the Check for
Updates button on the first page of your copy of the ebook
to see them.
<http://www.akappleug.org/rev/456.html>
<http://www.tidbits.com/takecontrol/buying-mac.html>
Hot Topics in TidBITS Talk/28-Feb-05
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by TidBITS Staff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The second URL below each thread description points to the
discussion on our Web Crossing server, which will be faster.
**iPod shuffle Performance Problems** -- Does the iPod shuffle
perform notably more slowly than other flash drives when used
for copying and deleting data? (7 messages)
<http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tlkthrd=2482>
<http://emperor.tidbits.com/TidBITS/Talk/340>
**Sharing iTunes but with different ratings for songs** -- What do
you do for ratings when you and your wife have diverging tastes
in music but want to share the same iTunes Library? (4 messages)
<http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tlkthrd=2491>
<http://emperor.tidbits.com/TidBITS/Talk/349>
**iPod updates (and iPod photo redux)** -- TidBITS Talk readers
share their impressions of the new iPod mini and iPod photo
models. (4 messages)
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