Hi Saq

I cannot open the peermore forms or the tiddlers.wiki - are they
currently unavailable - or is my coonection to slow?? - It gets timed
out for both adresses..

My intentention was that my collegues should be able to choose to fill
out the form online - or download it for later review - or personal
backup - themselves.
It would be fine if the tiddlywiki -then could be attached to a an
email - prefilled with the address - specified in SomeName(UmaMesa)
FormEmailURL-tiddler or from the contactform sending it to serveral
recipients.

if the mailto: parameter was able to provide these extra features
including the attach function - That would be truely great!! - It
doesn't matter that it has to use the users own email-application in
the process - for my purposes.

When I recieve the tws with users forms - then I would try to set up a
"mastertw" - which should import and hold all recieved forms - and
fetch the data from the forms into sortable tables - via fET.. - I
have been using some "tagglytaggingtweakingfeature" - don't remember
its' name - in other TWs which enables some statistics concerning the
tags - and it would be nice to be able to render some kind of
procentual status - based on the amount of sepcific data compared to
the number of tiddlers (renamed after the dispatchers/or anonymous).

But its not really necessary - I just need fET access to the specific
data - to setup my own tables - The way I choose to render the data in
the tables - I haven't really considered yet..

We are less than 40 empoyees - and I don't mind having to tinker - and
"moodle" - with the "mastertw" in order to make a presentation of the
statistic results - even if I have to draw some charts by hand - and
integrate them as pictures...

I don't know if it makes sense to you - and maybe I have forgotten
some nessesary steps in the process - Please tell me if I have..

Thanks for Your kind answer .

YS Måns Mårtensson


On Mar 3, 10:40 am, Saq Imtiaz <[email protected]> wrote:
> UnaMesa has indeed been working on using TiddlyWiki for data
> collection, building on the original work done by Eric for the UnaMesa
> Academy application. For the purpose of the Academy, as I think you're
> aware, the filled out form was sent to an email address and the data
> collected that way. Since then we've been focusing on putting together
> a more automated mechanism for aggregating data from TiddlyWiki forms.
>
> We're at a stage now where we are trying to better understand what
> kind of use cases these forms need to cover. Rather than base this on
> theoretical assumptions, I'd very much like to hear from anyone
> interested in using TiddlyWiki based forms for data collection as to
> what kind of work flow would work for you. It is my hope that we can
> work together on this to develop a solution that meets your needs.
>
> The kind of things that would be helpful to know are: How would you
> like to use TiddlyWiki based forms? More specifically, how would you
> distribute them (email attachment? link to a web page?)? How would you
> want the data aggregated? (all in one TiddlyWiki? one TiddlyWiki per
> user filling out the form?) Who should have access to the data
> collected? (only you, you and the person filling out the form etc.)
>
> Chris Dent has been leading the work on this, utilizing TiddlyWeb to
> create a sharing and aggregation solution for TiddlyWiki based forms.
> Due to the nature of TiddlyWiki, forms can be filled out online or
> offline, and later synchronized with the server for aggregation
> purposes.
>
> Some of the goals for this work are:
> * Be able to offer digital equivalents of paper-based forms
> * Allow forms to be filled out online or offline
> * Aggregation of form data in an automated manner
> * Allow interoperability with other form formats, e.g.: XML based.
> * provide a form creator that allows creation of forms without having
> to write HTML
> * create a forms library with templates for different kinds of forms
> * Facilitate different user scenarios and needs with regards to who
> should have access to the form data. (We strongly believe that both
> the person creating and sending out the form, and the person filling
> it out should have access to their data.)
>
> More information:
> *Very early 
> demo:http://peermore.com:9998/forms/0bd6a30e-fddd-4564-99d9-d56f69e7e326
> (test/foo for user/pass)
> ** which can use forms templates generated by this form 
> builder:http://javascript.neyric.com/inputex/inputExBuilder/inputExBuilder.html
> *Technical write up by Chris of the current 
> prototype:http://forms.unamesa.org/Server+Side+Prototype
> *Different user/authentication 
> scenarios:http://forms.unamesa.org/Authentication+scenarios
> *Alternative demo using the UM Academy application 
> form:http://peermore.com:9999/recipes/test1/tiddlers.wiki
>
> Note that these demos may be difficult to follow without guidance.
> I'll post a proper demo with a walk-through in about a week's time (in
> a new thread). Feel free to ask questions in the meantime.
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
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