Hi Måns, I assume that when you say that you are translating the macros, that you mean that you are changing the text and labels to their Danish equivalents. Or is there something else going on?
Perhaps if you gave an example of something simple that breaks when you change a bit of text, it might give some insights into how to go about this. Mark On Mar 31, 10:55 am, Måns <[email protected]> wrote: > To Mark: > I've used MartinBuddens english translationsplugin to translate the > core functions of tiddlywiki into danish. > Source:www.example.com > CodeRepository:http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/association/locales/core/en/locale.en.js > > When I try to translate plugins and macros I constantly make faults > that breaks the code - so I have to be very carefull and translate > only what's absolutely necessary for buttons and so on. > Trial and error - and sometimes I have to give up ... > > YS Måns Mårtensson > > On 31 Mar., 16:27, "Mark S." <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Isn't there a global replace plugin/script somewhere? Surprising if > > there is not. > > > It might be easier to work with the TW source file itself inside of a > > good editor. Grab the piece of text you want to change, and do a > > global replace (with verification for each change). > > > -- Mark > > > On Mar 30, 11:37 pm, Måns <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > You must have a masters degree in Zen... :-) > > > Of course You are right. I should do both. > > > > My concerns about "doing it right" includes beeing anxious - not to > > > break any links when I translate the individual tiddlers. > > > > I wonder if I could make a "work in progress fET" that shows me the > > > relation between tiddlers as I go forward.. > > > > A table that shows me relations - parents and children... (I don't > > > know how to tell which tiddlers link to the tiddler in question - > > > maybe just a simple textsearch?) > > > > Doing it the "normal way" - might that be to follow a path similar to: > > > first translate tiddlers "at the bottom of the foodchain" with less > > > links - like subsubsubsubnotes - and slowly work my way up the hieracy > > > of linkrelations by adressing more and more tiddlers holding the same > > > links - and remember to solve more relations/other links on the way > > > up...?? > > > > Btw. I have "dom 7-error" when I try to open twab in Google Chrome - > > > and when I try to open twab in IE it tells me that there's an unknown > > > error - so it only works in Firefox. > > > I was thinking that I might make a TW just with twabcontacts and > > > "include" them via the includeplugin - > > > But I must admit that not beeing able to use twab in IE & GoogleChrome > > > - makes me consider taking the csv import functions only - to fill a > > > more simple template.. (To be honest I don't have a clue what is > > > causing the problem...) > > > > YS Måns Mårtensson > > > > On 31 Mar., 02:56, Morris Gray <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 31, 8:49 am, Måns <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I'd like to delete the contactfunctions and use twab instead.(Which I > > > > > already have translated partly..) > > > > > Twab have some nice csv import functions which make it most usefull > > > > > for importing a large number of contacts at once. > > > > > I have already done that and have it working to some degree but began > > > > to feel TWAB might be a bit heavy for what the rest of TW Tudu was > > > > intended for as it grew larger and larger. > > > > > > Some day I'd like to do some real translation where I restrain myself > > > > > to JUST translate the original works of some of you TWmagicians who > > > > > know how to make smallsize mastodonts out of a TW... > > > > > If I might be so bold as to suggest that you do 'just' a translation > > > > this time:-) Consider it an exercise in experimenting with self- > > > > control :-) It should be quite enjoyable to translate only rather than > > > > trying to construct a whole new TidddlyWiki at the same time. > > > > > That way you'll have a working basic Danish model quite quickly that > > > > you can share. While you are translating many ideas will come to you > > > > for improvements which you make note of (but don't implement in this > > > > version:-) > > > > > Then use that as a basis for constructing the ideal 'Deluxe' version > > > > with all the bells and whistles with most of the translation already > > > > done for you. Now you can concentrate on your desired improvements > > > > with a minimum of translation effort. > > > > > Doing it in two stages will result in two TiddlyWikis that may appeal > > > > to different users, a light version and a 'power' users version. > > > > > Just my random thoughts for the day:-) > > > > > Morris Grayhttp://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com > > > > A TiddlyWiki help file for beginners > > > > > On Mar 31, 8:49 am, Måns <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Morris - I very impressed by your design and adaption twtudu > > > > > (http://twtudu.tiddlyspot.com) > > > > > And I think I might choose that version because of the nice design!! > > > > > > I'd like to delete the contactfunctions and use twab instead.(Which I > > > > > already have translated partly..) > > > > > Twab have some nice csv import functions which make it most usefull > > > > > for importing a large number of contacts at once. > > > > > > I will have to experiment a lot to see if I can integrate twab in the > > > > > existing environment - but I think it's worth it. > > > > > Maybe I just end up with my own version - cluttered with all kinds of > > > > > extra plugins and stuff- as usual.. > > > > > > Some day I'd like to do some real translation where I restrain myself > > > > > to JUST translate the original works of some of you TWmagicians who > > > > > know how to make smallsize mastodonts out of a TW... > > > > > > But untill then I just fiddle around and learn a lot about TW in the > > > > > process.. > > > > > > I believe that there are a lot of potential in localisation of TW - > > > > > because one of the true strenghts of TW is that it is really simple > > > > > for people who are not familiar with nettechnologies but are used to > > > > > navigate in browsers. > > > > > Those people are often not academic or very well educated - therefore > > > > > they avoid pages on foreign languages... > > > > > I'd like to address this issue - .... But I might need some more > > > > > experience - I'm a lot like TW myself - nonlinear and all ;-) - so I > > > > > need to make plans and maybe this tiddlydu3 thing is the start of a > > > > > more structured way to follow up on the goals that I might have..?! > > > > > > Thanks for the tips.. > > > > > > YS Måns Mårtensson > > > > > > On 30 Mar., 15:28, Morris Gray <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > My Danish is limited to Continental breakfasts:-) But what about > > > > > > listing all tiddlers not tagged with systemConfig and translating > > > > > > all > > > > > > of them, that would be most all of the important TiddlyDu3 'working > > > > > > tiddlers'. Some of the ViewTemplates may need to be partially > > > > > > translated too because of the use of TaggedTemplateTweak. > > > > > > > Perhaps that would be a good starting point. > > > > > > > Morris Grayhttp://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com > > > > > > A TiddlyWiki help file for beginners > > > > > > > On Mar 30, 6:04 pm, Måns <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > I would like to translate Mr Dave Giffords TiddlyDu3 into Danish > > > > > > > - and > > > > > > > I wonder if there is a good way to do this. > > > > > > > I've translated the core functions of TW already - but it's the > > > > > > > menusystem and all related tiddlers I'm after. > > > > > > > > I've translated/modified less complicated TWs before - but I > > > > > > > wonder if > > > > > > > there's a best practice for this kind of thing? > > > > > > > > I don't just want to "make it work" - as I have up till now - I > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > like to do it properly. > > > > > > > If you have a best practice or even guideline for me to follow - I > > > > > > > would be most gratefull. > > > > > > > > YS Måns Mårtensson > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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