Hi Måns

Thank you for pointing me to this most interesting plugin by Eric
Shulman. I have also found the HideWhenPlugin by Simon Baird
http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#HideWhenPlugin. Both of these plugins can
let you have a different EditTemplate or ViewTemplate depending on the
tags of the tiddler being edited or viewed. I think this method is
going to give me the best results by letting me create a new tiddler
with default content and tags and then let me see the tiddler in view
mode for entering the data. However, I will first have to figure out
how to make a new template, which may take some time.

Cheers
Andrew Mc

On May 29, 12:34 am, Måns <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Andrew
>
> You might have some luck with Eric Shulmans 
> TaggedTemplateTweakhttp://www.tiddlytools.com/#TaggedTemplateTweak.
> It allows you to use a single tag to invoke a customized View- and
> edittemplateTemplate (ie timesheettestViewTemplate and
> timesheettestEditTemplate) Next action would be to write those
> templates embedding the formtemlate into the ViewTemplate like this:
> <span class macro='formTiddler TimesheetRecordTemplate'></span>.
> All tiddlers tagged  timesheettest, will then be opened with the form
> - without any form written to the textarea... which I think is
> great...
> Don't know if this helps - but it's another way of doing it - and
> maybe it gives you new possibilities.
> I've tried to use formtemplates from/in the edittemplate - but it
> didn't work for me...
>
> Regards Måns Mårtensson
>
> On May 28, 10:57 am, AndrewMc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Alex
>
> > The newJournal macro does pretty much what I did with the newTiddler
> > macro. Both create a new tiddler in edit mode. However, what I want is
> > for the new tiddler to be created from a form, have certain tags, and
> > be shown in view mode. The newTiddlerWithForm macro does this but
> > unfortunately does not have a way of specifying tags during the
> > tiddler creation.
>
> > Cheers
> > Andrew Mc
>
> > On May 28, 7:50 pm, Alex Hough <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > A while back i did something with monitoring. The key was to ensure
> > > that the new tiddler has a unique name. TiddlyAdvisors recomended the
> > > time and date. I experimented with two formats for the dateBelow is
> > > what I ended  up doing;
>
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > > Tiddler Monitoring Dashboard
> > > -----------------------------------------
>
> > > <<newJournal
> > >          "(YYYY-0MM-0DD 0hh:0mm) S3*"
> > >          label:"new daily monitoring form Us format"
> > >          text:{{store.getTiddlerText("DailyMonitoringTemplate")}}
> > >          tag:"S3*">> <<newJournal
>
> > >          "(DDD DDth MMM YYYY  0hh:0mm) S3*"
> > >          label:"new daily monitoring form UK format"
> > >          text:{{store.getTiddlerText("DailyMonitoringTemplate")}}
> > >          tag:"S3*"
>
> > > List of existing records
> > > <<forEachTiddler
> > > where
> > > 'tiddler.title.contains("S3*") && tiddler.tags.contains("S3*")'
> > >     >>
>
> > > Editing Monitoring Dashboard
> > > To edit the daily monitoring form you will need to edit the
> > > <<newTiddler "MonitoringTemplate" label:"MonitoringTemplate">>
>
> > > --------------------------------------
> > > tags: DashBoard
> > > -------------------------------------
>
> > > You would have to make your own MonitoringTemplate using Udos formTiddler
>
> > > Alex
>
> > > (I have used the tag 'S3*' for my monitoring tiddlers. The reason is
> > > that in the VSM system 3* is about monitoring) - 
> > > seehttp://www.allennaleonard.com/PersVSM.html#sys3*ifyouare interested
> > > in this method of organisation.
>
> > > 2009/5/28 AndrewMc <[email protected]>:
>
> > > > Hi Alex
>
> > > > Thanks for the suggestion. The TaskTimerPlugin looks interesting but
> > > > seems to be most useful for when you are timing activities while you
> > > > have access to your Wiki. In my case, however, I want to enter the
> > > > times that I have spent doing other activities which are almost always
> > > > done away from a computer. So, sadly, TaskTimerPlugin won't solve my
> > > > particular problem.
>
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Andrew Mc
>
> > > > On May 28, 12:17 am, Alex Hough <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> Try Erics solution:
>
> > > >>http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#TaskTimerPluginhttp://www.TiddlyTools.com...
>
> > > >> Alex
>
> > > >> 2009/5/27 AndrewMc <[email protected]>:
>
> > > >> > Hi All
>
> > > >> > I am working on a study project for which I need to record the hours
> > > >> > that I work. I am trying to store these "timesheet" records in my
> > > >> > wiki . I have set up a template tiddler containing a form with three
> > > >> > fields: Date, Hours, and Topic. I wish to have a macro button that
> > > >> > enables me to create new timesheet records. I have tried three ways 
> > > >> > of
> > > >> > doing this. I have added Udo's 
> > > >> > plugin,http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#FormTiddlerPlugin,
> > > >> > and used <<newTiddler>> with <<formTiddler>>,  and used
> > > >> > <<newTiddlerWithForm>>.  I have also 
> > > >> > triedhttp://zaptest.tiddlyspot.com/#NewSavedTiddlerPlugin
> > > >> > and the <<newSavedTiddler>> macro.
>
> > > >> > <<newTiddler
> > > >> > title:{{"Time_test_"+(new Date()).formatString
> > > >> > ("YYYY0MM0DD_hh0mm0ss")}}
> > > >> > label:"New timesheet record button"
> > > >> > text:{{"<<formTiddler TimesheetRecordTemplate\>\>"}}
> > > >> > tag:"timesheettest">>
>
> > > >> > <<newTiddlerWithForm
> > > >> > TimesheetRecordTemplate
> > > >> > "newtiddlerwithform button"
> > > >> > [["Time_test_"+(new Date()).formatString("YYYY0MM0DD_hh0mm0ss")]]>>
>
> > > >> > <<newSavedTiddler
> > > >> > text:{{"<<formTiddler [[TimesheetRecordTemplate]]>" + ">"}}
> > > >> > tag:"timesheettest"
> > > >> > label:'newSavedTiddler button'>>
>
> > > >> > Of these three methods, the newTiddler method lets me easily specify
> > > >> > default content by adding a "<data> </data>" statement to the text,
> > > >> > but opens the tiddler in edit mode when I would much rather it be in
> > > >> > view mode. The newTiddlerWithForm method lets me specify default
> > > >> > content and opens the new tiddler in view mode, but doesn't let me
> > > >> > automatically add tags to the new tiddler. The newSavedTiddler opens
> > > >> > in view mode and lets me specify default content, but does not let me
> > > >> > automatically create a title for the tiddler (instead you need to 
> > > >> > type
> > > >> > in the new title at a prompt).
>
> > > >> > What I would like to be able to do is to modify newTiddlerWithForm so
> > > >> > that this macro accepts a "tags:" parameter. Is it possible to do
> > > >> > this? If so, how would I start doing this?
>
> > > >> > Or, is there another way to achieve what I want to do?
>
> > > >> > I have found these two threads:
> > > >> > 'coding to auto-tag a tiddler created by FormTiddlerPlugin?'
> > > >> >http://groups.google.co.nz/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/7212...
>
> > > >> > 'Automatically adding tags when using NewTiddlerWithForm'
> > > >> >http://groups.google.co.nz/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/c642...
>
> > > >> > Cheers
> > > >> > Andrew Mc
>
> > > >> --
> > > >> t: 0161 442 2202
> > > >> m: 0781 372 50 17
> > > >> skype: alexhough
> > > >> delicious: alexhough
>
> > > --
> > > t: 0161 442 2202
> > > m: 0781 372 50 17
> > > skype: alexhough
> > > delicious: alexhough
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