On Jul 6, 9:21 pm, Tobias Beer <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't know which bad case of self referencing "breaks" tiddlywiki
> core. Tiddlers can cross reference each other via tagging just fine.
> What I do see is that treemenu gets an overload by cross references.

Treeview doesn't do anything new in the tagging department it simply
references tiddlers to list them on the menu.  With any logical
sequence of building a menu the problem should never come up. You
don't have to be anymore careful than with any other tagging sequence.
To try to anticipate every mistake someone could make is an
unnecessary complication.

> Though the idea with the rootnode doesn't quite make sense, listing
> only tiddler tagged "treeview" in the menu does make sense... I'll see
> if I can get a working example.

Note that creating a subtopic already tags those tiddlers with
'treeview'.  It is only used for reference and then not a very good
one because people can add to the menu in other ways and not include
it.  If someone tags a tiddler accidentally with a menu item it is
glaringly obvious because it shows up on the menu.  If it creates an
endless loop that is even more obvious.  If you can find a simple way
to prevent the rare occurrence of a loop before it occurs I'm sure it
would be welcomed.

> I mean that there is no indication what tiddlers are tagging to a
> tiddler. You know, that "tagging" box in tw core or any of the lists
> provided by tagglyTagging. Or do I just not see it?

You are right it is not there.  I routinely remove it from all my
TiddlyWikis, it is not aesthetically pleasing and for most
applications it is unnecessary.  The Tags: ▾ button on the toolbar
allows you to see the tags on any tiddler without editing if you
wish.  If someone wishes the tagging box displayed they can simply add
it to the ViewTemplate - it is a matter of user preference.

Morris

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On Jul 6, 9:21 pm, Tobias Beer <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > 2) I know it is stupid, but if you'd (accidentally) tag a topmenu item
> > > with the name of a submenu item, you'd get a macro error (infinite
> > > loop?)... don't know if that's supposed to be so.
>
> > Yes it is the case that if you tell a tiddler to refer to itself in
> > any form you get a loop. TiddlyWiki is a goal seeking machine and will
> > do what you tell it to even if sometimes it's ill advised...
>
> I don't know which bad case of self referencing "breaks" tiddlywiki
> core. Tiddlers can cross reference each other via tagging just fine.
> What I do see is that treemenu gets an overload by cross references.
>
> > > 3) If I create a tiddler and tag it with the name of any of the items
> > > already in the menu, it will be displayed in the menu... I think it
> > > were better if only those items ended up in a treeview menu, that are
> > > actually tagged "treeview" ...or even better tagged with the rootnode.
>
> > You could probably do this if you wish. I might consider adopting it
> > if you do.
>
> Though the idea with the rootnode doesn't quite make sense, listing
> only tiddler tagged "treeview" in the menu does make sense... I'll see
> if I can get a working example.
>
> > > 4) Whatever happened to "tagging"?!? To remove it seems quite bad. If
> > > you had tiddlers that were not in the menu, but still use tagging, you
> > > would only see the tag relation in the tiddler that is tagging but no
> > > reference in the tiddler which is the tag.
>
> > I'm not exactly sure what you mean.
>
> I mean that there is no indication what tiddlers are tagging to a
> tiddler. You know, that "tagging" box in tw core or any of the lists
> provided by tagglyTagging. Or do I just not see it?
> See here:http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/287/1921843680.png
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