Hi All Exporting a presentation from Impress using Flash format does a good job of keeping the original slides as they were. It' s then simple to watch your flash presentation from within a tiddler...........
But what makes TW better than Powerpoint is the ability to add in other information. For example.....I don´t actually use Powerpoint...I work directly in TW (using Pauls SlideShowPlugin)......and I usually have the right sidebar panel loaded with a TWTreeView tiddler that reads a config.options value....so when I open presentation #1....the right colum automatically refreshes to show all the references I used to generate that presentation.....switching to presentation #2...and now references for presentation #2 are nicely displayed and organised by TWTreeView..........at the end of the course I simply give the participants a CD that has my TW (and its supporting fotos..images) and now the participants have the presentation, all the references...maybe extra notes.......whatever you want to add....you can add in UploadTiddlerPlugin and use the TW as the document that participants use to answer questions and the TW sends them to the teachers home-copy.....add in LoadTiddlers and now each participants TW gets updated with the assignment answers of all the other participants.....now we are getting into good collaborative education........not just a Powerpoint look-alike...... Keep the creativity going guys.......... Skye On 5 Out, 20:00, Måns <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry: > ... - You need much time > to get the idea of how it works and the learningcurve is *very very* > low, ... > should be: > You *don't* need much time > to get the idea of how it works and the learningcurve is *very very* > low > > Regards Måns Mårtensson > > On 6 Okt., 00:56, Måns <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Craig > > I don't think you can weary me :-) or wear me out - or what the > > correct expression might be.. > > If I was to convince someone to use TW as an presentationTool - I > > would first show them how TW works as a simple notedatabase - and then > > show them how easy it is to turn the notes into a presentation.. > > TW's strength is not just beeing a container for content made in > > another fundamentally different tool - it's the workflow and the > > ability to create individualized systems which sets it apart from > > anything else - especially PowerPoint... > > > *If* I however should introduce a radical improvement compared to > > Powerpoint - which is almost embarrassingly obvious - yet very > > digestable for someone who is used to Powerpoint (I believe..) - I > > would make a showcase with VUE (Visual Understanding > > Environment)http://vue.tufts.edu/ > > Here's a truly great tool which combines simple mindmapping and > > slidepresentations in a way that makes Powerpoint look hopelessly > > primitive - and incapable of delivering even the simplest overview of > > context... > > > TiddlyWiki has it's own way of delivering context - web2.0'ish in > > conduct - tags - fields - tables etc - But it needs to be fed - and > > customized for effective use. > > VUE is a finished solution for making presentations in a way that > > affects every aspect of making presentations - even the research and > > collection of images is implemented in a way that makes it stand > > out... > > > Its OpenSource and very worth while looking into - You need much time > > to get the idea of how it works and the learningcurve is *very very* > > low, (and short...) > > VUE has all sorts of student/professorfriendly exportformats - so why > > not make a total switch? - be radical - change the workflow and turn > > everything upside down... > > > Again my opinion is (I might be wrong of course...) TW's strenght is > > *not* just beeing a container for what is made in another program - > > It's the nonlinear linking, web2.0'ish behaviour that makes people > > think differently and change perspective (make systems with tags and > > links)- the notes you make *can* turn into "pure gold" when you > > discover that you can make the document into a presentationtool as > > well - but to compare it with Powerpoint ---- ? > > I wouldn't try to convince someone who hasn't discovered TW's great > > advantages (compared to a simple Word-document) - of it's > > presentationabilities - especially not - if they are used to a > > "closed" environment as Powerpoint - which sole point is to power up a > > series of slides.... nothing more. > > > Try VUE - it's different.http://vue.tufts.edu/ > > > Regards Måns Mårtensson > > > On 5 Okt., 20:34, Craig in Calgary <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Måns, > > > > All your suggestions are excellent if I only want to view the PPT > > > content within a TW context. However, what I am trying to do is create > > > a turnkey method of converting PPT content into TW-editable content. > > > Why? This goes hand-in-hand with my post on Scientific Research > > > (http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/t/7ea2c7a6f43e58b0?hl=en). > > > I haven't finalized permission from my professor but I believe my TW > > > research is going to focus on the benefits of students and faculty > > > using TW instead of PowerPoint as a delivery mechanism for lecture > > > content. I hope to be able to conduct a trial with several different > > > professors in different academic disciplines where they will present > > > one lecture as they normally do and another lecture through a TW. > > > After the students are tested on the material from both lectures I > > > will survey to determine if retention was improved by the use of TW as > > > an editable resource. > > > > The easier I can make it on myself to migrate content to TWs, the > > > broader my trial and survey will be. The window of time is just a few > > > weeks and I need to reduce the workload as much as possible. > > > Additionally, at the conclusion of my research, if my findings are as > > > positive as I believe they will be, it is likely some of those > > > professors might consider adopting this strategy more widely. For > > > *their* sake I need to find or craft an automated solution. > > > > In tinkering with PowerPoint 2007 with a 26-slide sample PPT I have > > > determined that the PDF and MHT formats (Save As...) accurately > > > reproduce the look of each slide. The MHTs render poorly in Firefox > > > (my preferred browser) and render nicely in IE *if* I place the MHT > > > file in the root directory or a directory with no spaces or special > > > characters in the path. The Publish --> Create Handouts in Microsoft > > > Word option did a tolerable job of creating (too) small images of each > > > slide and adding speaker notes beside or below each image. If I chose > > > "Outline only" I get all the slide text but no images of the slides or > > > embedded images, no speaker notes, and no formatting or layout of the > > > slide text in a way that could be easily combined with the other > > > Publish method (small images and speaker notes). There is even a > > > Publish --> Publish Slides options which creates a PPTX for each slide > > > in the deck. I haven't experimented with these files yet but I > > > wouldn't be opposed to constructing a batch process against all the > > > PPTXs in a directory. > > > > In tinkering with OpenOffice.org's Impress application, the same > > > sample PPT imports flawlessly. Export... --> File format: HTML > > > Document yields the same results as File --> Preview in Web Browser: > > > it generates an HTML file with an embedded image for each slide and a > > > second HTML file with the slide text for each slide, excluding the > > > slide titles. These render well enough, except: > > > * The text HTMLs don't have the slide titles. This is where I would > > > cut/paste the text from so the missing titles is a problem. However, > > > if my solution requires grepping and schlepping content amongst HTML > > > files, then grabbing the slide titles from the <title></title> tags > > > will not be an issue. > > > * The text HTMLs have a bug. The first paragraph of slide text is > > > pushed into the highest <h> tag on the page. For example, a page with > > > only several bullets (<ul><li></li></ul>) has the first bullet of > > > content pushed into an <h2></h2> or <h3></h3>. Again, if grepping and > > > schlepping must occur, cleaning up the content will just be another > > > step in the laborious process. > > > * The image HTMLs have a navigation bar at the top of the page for > > > First page, Back, Continue, Last page, Overview, and Text. The text > > > HTMLs don't have the same icon bar. They just have hyperlinks. Boring > > > and inconsistent. Possibly not relevant if I don't use the HTMLs > > > unmodified. > > > * There is no option for exporting just the embedded images within > > > slides, not the entire slide as an image. > > > > I suspect my solution might involve each tiddler containing an image > > > of the original slide and the editable text. This will provide the > > > student a reference point for the original content after they have > > > modified the text to suit themselves. > > > > Other possibilities > > > > I uploaded the PPT to Google Docs. It looks fine there but the only > > > "Download presentation as" options are PDF, PPT, TXT. The TXT is > > > useless. > > > > Moving beyond the conventional to the extreme, I have access to many > > > different applications, e.g. SnagIt, FAR (Find and Replace), numerous > > > editors for any imaginable content type, that might contribute to a > > > multi-step solution. I hope to avoid such complexity but here is my > > > plan-of-action as of this moment. I'm mostly thinking out loud here, > > > subject to change: > > > > With an instructor-provided PPT I will craft a process that: > > > 1. Imports the PPT into Impress. When Impress opens a PPT it converts > > > it automatically so there is actually no work for me to do here except > > > pass the filename and -o parameter to the Impress executable at the > > > command line. > > > 2. Exports all slides to HTML specifying a destination directory and > > > pre-defined design. > > > - Future refinement: Create destination directory if it doesn't > > > already exist. > > > - Future refinement: Warn if destination directory already contains an > > > export. > > > - Future refinement: I haven't found a command line option to run the > > > Export process automatically so I will need to create a macro or > > > explore the API Project (http://api.openoffice.org/). The solution > > > will need to also allow for the selection of one of several pre- > > > defined designs. I expect every instructor will want their tiddlers to > > > look "just so" so I'll likely have maintain several designs (CSS, > > > icons, etc.) choices. My ultimate goal is to not have to interact with > > > the Impress UI at all. > > > - Future refinement: Embed the instructor's name, course name, course > > > ID, and date/timestamp of the original PPT into the content (for > > > versioning). At the least this information should be embedded in the > > > tiddlers as non-editable. Integrating it into each image would be > > > better. Both would be best. > > > 3. Identify the TW that will receive the content. For now that will > > > have to be a single TW per PPT. > > > - Future refinement: Option to download the latest/greatest TW > > > fromhttp://tiddlywiki.com. > > > - Future refinement: allow multiple PPTs to import into a single TW so > > > the all the course content can reside in one TW. > > > 4. 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