On Nov 11, 4:30 am, Måns <[email protected]> wrote:
> Morris
>
> I don't have the vocabulary needed to express how awesome Flatpack is!
> A surreal CSSCornucopiaTW
> You get the impression that everything can be changed with a few
> clicks and in almost any individual direction possible... - but still
> the overview is clean and intuitive - VERY WELL DONE Morris. I like it
> a lot!

Thanks very much for the kind words Måns. It has laid TiddlyWiki bear
opening up all sorts of possibilities that are revealing themselves on
an hourly basis.  While the project started out as a very versatile
theme changer the tools that are evolving  will make anyone feel they
are in control once they see the simplicity of them that achieves such
remarkable results.

> A few subjective requests:
> To "complete the circle" it might be a good idea to replace the "Home-
> button" in the TopMenu/menu-ver with a "TotalReset -  tooltip: reset
> to last saved layout without loosing other changes" - sth I miss a
> little is an "undo" or "go back" "go forward" button - However a
> dedicated LayoutHistory might be an overkill for this ....

What you suggest is possible since I achieved my goal of recording
theme and structure changes in a single tiddler, however this tiddler,
needlessly to say requires that all supporting scripts and other
necessary support be existing and identical should you wish to import
it., So it is possible save the data and certain things have to be
renamed and stored.  So it will be possible to have a forward/back
button but that must wait for a later version.

> Some typical noprogrammer nonsense and castles in the air:
> A fun project might be to reconstruct a standard empty TW with your
> FlatPack - or maybe even be able to load the necessary tiddlers and
> layout in one go from FlatPack into an empty document using
> SwitchBoard on demand... (a revolutionary way of changing layout... -
> However FlatPack is already very innovative, radical (still intuitive)
> and revolutionary at the same time)..

The old fashioned way of simply importing all tiddlers into the empty
has not been superceded yet:-)

> A few problems:
> Google Chrome shows dom errors in different situations
> * When opening the page -
> * Clicking Home in the Topmenu
> * Opening the toggleTiddlersBarMG - tiddler

This is a very common problem with Google if you have the latest
version the error notice will come up once or twice then have a box to
tick which prevents it from showing again.  I missed the tick box at
first until I read about how common it is and heard about the tick box

> Internet Explorer can't handle different layouts for the TopMenu
> (except for plain grey (the same "2D" grey for the first 3
> TopMenustyles ) - and the camouflage style..)
> Otherwise it seems to work - even the treeviewtiddlertree renders
> fine...

That topmenu is an IE7 detector.  IE7 doesn't render embedded data
images IE8 does along with Google, Firefox and Opera but they do it
and everything else a million times faster.

> Great application - I will recommend it to everybody - even newbies -
> because of the simple, intuitive and very elegant userinterface.
>
> I have put three flashvideos in your Dropbox showing how I see and
> navigate Flatpack in FireFox, Google Chrome and Internet Explorer
> respectively...
>
> Thanks for letting me have this sneak peek - It has been a joyfull and
> sensational experience and I remembered the feeling I had the first
> time I discovered TiddlyWiki - Thanks Morris

I thank you.  But you're not off the hook yet and it will be some time
before you are. Best that you get very familiar with it because you
will be the main debugger of changes and frontline backup support for
it one day.

It has more than doubled the addictiveness of TiddlyWiki and I have
been working the clock around, night and day. I'm off to get some
sleep.

Morris

On Nov 11, 4:30 am, Måns <[email protected]> wrote:
> Morris
>
> I don't have the vocabulary needed to express how awesome Flatpack is!
> A surreal CSSCornucopiaTW
> You get the impression that everything can be changed with a few
> clicks and in almost any individual direction possible... - but still
> the overview is clean and intuitive - VERY WELL DONE Morris. I like it
> a lot!
>
> A few subjective requests:
> To "complete the circle" it might be a good idea to replace the "Home-
> button" in the TopMenu/menu-ver with a "TotalReset -  tooltip: reset
> to last saved layout without loosing other changes" - sth I miss a
> little is an "undo" or "go back" "go forward" button - However a
> dedicated LayoutHistory might be an overkill for this ....
> I miss options for pale/white viewerbackgrounds with black text -
>
> Some typical noprogrammer nonsense and castles in the air:
> A fun project might be to reconstruct a standard empty TW with your
> FlatPack - or maybe even be able to load the necessary tiddlers and
> layout in one go from FlatPack into an empty document using
> SwitchBoard on demand... (a revolutionary way of changing layout... -
> However FlatPack is already very innovative, radical (still intuitive)
> and revolutionary at the same time)..
>
> A few problems:
> Google Chrome shows dom errors in different situations
> * When opening the page -
> * Clicking Home in the Topmenu
> * Opening the toggleTiddlersBarMG - tiddler
>
> Internet Explorer can't handle different layouts for the TopMenu
> (except for plain grey (the same "2D" grey for the first 3
> TopMenustyles ) - and the camouflage style..)
> Otherwise it seems to work - even the treeviewtiddlertree renders
> fine...
>
> Great application - I will recommend it to everybody - even newbies -
> because of the simple, intuitive and very elegant userinterface.
>
> I have put three flashvideos in your Dropbox showing how I see and
> navigate Flatpack in FireFox, Google Chrome and Internet Explorer
> respectively...
>
> Thanks for letting me have this sneak peek - It has been a joyfull and
> sensational experience and I remembered the feeling I had the first
> time I discovered TiddlyWiki - Thanks Morris
>
> YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> On 10 Nov., 10:17, Morris Gray <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Måns
>
> > I have sent you an invitation to join the Dropbox beta sharing folder
> > as Chief Beta Tester.
>
> > Morris
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