I think I need an explainer about what an "etag" is. There are etags in the vim editor, but I don't think you mean the same thing.
Just to repeat. Between one save and a second attempted save was more like 6 minutes, not 6 hours. But I don't understand what the etag is and how it gets set. Thanks! On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:55:52 PM UTC-8, Arlen Beiler wrote: > > You can disable etag checking completely if you want. If you can include > some more examples from the log file that would be great as well. > > The relevant log file info here shows the two values, ifmatch being the > browser copy. The last number is the modified timestamp in milliseconds, > which as you can see in this case are 6 hours apart. If you google > "epoch converter" you can paste that into "1970 Epoch in Milliseconds" > converter to get the date. The third line (and similar lines in more > serious scenarios) are debug lines where TiddlyServer points out which > parts are different and caused the etag to fail. > > 412 ifmatch "0-5124547-*1575414313000*" > 412 etag "0-5124547-*1575434388000*" > *412 caused by difference in modified* > [2019-12-03T20:46:07.125-0800] PUT 127.0.0.1 412 127.0.0.1 > /TW2014/T > o.html 42.922 ms - - > > The docs for the putsaver.etag setting is here: > https://arlen22.github.io/tiddlyserver/docs/serverconfig.html#etag-string > <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Farlen22.github.io%2Ftiddlyserver%2Fdocs%2Fserverconfig.html%23etag-string&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFwKrGHpGLE1r68GWgYnUkoFBkqmA> > > The section docs > https://arlen22.github.io/tiddlyserver/docs/serverconfig.html#section-putsaver > has > an example snippet. > > Alternatively, you can set etagAge (which is seconds, default of 3) to a > ridiculously high number (like 2 hours) so it only checks the size and not > the timestamp. But remember that the etag is gotten when the file is > loaded, so even if it sits in your browser for six hours, it will still be > the same if the file has not been modified on disk since then. There are > various reasons why this could happen, which is why I added the etagAge > setting. Another user had the same problem and we thought it seemed like > the antivirus was changing the modified timestamp on certain drives for > some reason. > > Hope that helps. > Arlen > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 11:07 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < > [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Unless my computer has discovered time travel, there is no way the file >> on disk is 6 hours newer. >> >> I load. >> I save once. >> I do things in the TW >> I save again ... and get the error. >> >> So unless the file was saved with a timestamp 6 hours in the future, it >> should be several minutes *older* than the browser version at the time of >> the save. >> >> I'm using 5.1.21 >> >> I'm wondering why it checks the time at all. Unless I do something crazy >> like manually copy a different version to the directory, the browser >> version should be "king". >> >> Perhaps checking the date slows things down. It's noticeably slower >> saving a single-file wiki with TS than with BobSaver or file-backups. >> >> Thanks! >> >> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 7:19:38 AM UTC-8, Arlen Beiler wrote: >>> >>> In this particular case, the file on disk is 6 hours newer than the copy >>> the browser downloaded. I have not used this feature of TiddlyServer much >>> so perhaps I should take a look at it again, but nothing changed since I >>> made it that I know of. I did run into a scenario where the etag was >>> changing by a second or two, so I added the putsaver.etagAge option to set >>> the window within which to ignore it. I will check the code to make sure >>> everything looks good on my end. What version of TiddlyWiki is the file? >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 11:53 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I get "changed on server" messages regularly. Often on the second time >>>> I attempt to save. Talking single files. >>>> This didn't happen with the old (1.??) version. It's made it pretty >>>> hard to use, since every time it happens I >>>> have to do a "rescue" of the changed tiddlers. If it just ignored the >>>> non-existent changes on disk and saved >>>> it would be fine. Output below. >>>> >>>> 412 ifmatch "0-5124547-1575414313000" >>>> 412 etag "0-5124547-1575434388000" >>>> 412 caused by difference in modified >>>> [2019-12-03T20:46:07.125-0800] PUT 127.0.0.1 412 127.0.0.1 >>>> /TW2014/T >>>> o.html 42.922 ms - - >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Just thought I'd take a minute to chime in here. I made TiddlyServer to >>>>> solve my own problem of Massive Multi-file Online wikis. It serves the >>>>> folders you specify in a sort of tree allowing them to be grouped >>>>> together >>>>> and easily navigated with the built-in directory index (even the virtual >>>>> directories or "groups"). 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