Mohammad,
I understands its complexity comes from its power, test it against a copy
of tiddlywiki.com and using items in the toc,
The Kin operator is like a toc only it returns the list of descendants and
or ancestors as a list from a filter.
Where it gets powerful is you can exclude one kin set from another so all
descendants of my grandfather except all descendants of mt father will list
uncles and cousins but not my father and me and my siblings.
Regards
Tony
On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 3:09:05 PM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Thanks Mark,
> I think one parent is simpler to understand and follow and more usable in
> Tiddlywiki than two parents!
> As you said the parser needs to support inheritance if not I have to go
> with macros!
>
> @TonyM
> I will have a look at kin plugin by bimlas! At the announce time I found
> it rather complex, but now I will go deep to see
> what mechanism he is used!
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 1:08:36 AM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Doing this where {{!!field}} returns the inherited value would probably
>> require a rewrite of the parser.
>>
>> But you could do something like this with macros.
>>
>> Each tiddler would have a field, say lparent (for logical parent).
>>
>> You would invoke like <<inherited myfield>>
>>
>> The macro would look to see if there was a field, "myfield". If so, it
>> would return the value. If not, it would use lparent to check the next
>> parent. If that didn't work it would check that tiddler's lparent field.
>> And so on. Probably using some recursive code.
>>
>> You could also possibly deal with two parents, if you're willing to
>> designate "dominate" parents whose value wins in the case of a tie. But
>> that's a digression.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:13:54 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your reply!
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. At first we need simple inheritance like making different styles
>>> for a div or table elements all inherited some features
>>> 2. There is one parent, grand parent and grand grand parent
>>> 3. We need to have children inherit properties from their parent BUT
>>> 4. can overload (override) some features they have themselves
>>>
>>> Using small code I could implement one step inheritance, but one would
>>> like to have such feature from transclusion like {{!!template}}
>>>
>>>
>>> A Demo
>>> This demo implement one step inheritance e.g child has only one parent
>>> and no grand parent
>>> look at : http://hirad.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> Here in examples we have a parent with three fields: first-name,
>>> last-name, age
>>> If a tiddler has not a field or a field with empty value, one expects
>>> child inherits its property (field/value) from parent
>>>
>>> - parent, child1, child2 is an example of what Mario explained and
>>> this is the current mechanism in Tiddlywiki e.g. what is called
>>> templating
>>> - parent, child1-p2, child2-p2 is an example of what I said in the
>>> question, simple inheritance
>>> - All child may not have all fields parent has or may have an
>>> empty field
>>> - A child if has not set a field (here a property) it will
>>> inherit that filed / value from its parent
>>> - NOTE: In this example child2-p2 has NO *last-name* field and
>>> its value has inherited from parent.
>>>
>>> This is the content of parent2 which uses a little code to implement the
>>> above simple inheritance
>>> I have gone through what Mark proposed ONE parent ...
>>>
>>>
>>> *What do you think?*
>>>
>>> This if work can have many use cases!
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 3:09:50 PM UTC+3:30, PMario wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mohamad,
>>>>
>>>> I think your example doesn't work, since the "inheritence" in this case
>>>> won't hold. The "child" always needs its own last-name.
>>>>
>>>> eg: Let's say parent-1 and parent-2 have different last-names. The
>>>> child will be transcluded into both parents and would therefore have 3
>>>> different last-names.
>>>>
>>>> In reality a child can get:
>>>>
>>>> 1) child gets parent-1 last-name
>>>> 2) child gets parent-2 last- name
>>>> 3) a combination of parent-1 and parent-2 last-name
>>>> and may be
>>>> 4) If child is old enough it can decide to get a completely different
>>>> name.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------
>>>>
>>>> I think inheritance violates the tiddlers number 1 rule: A tiddler is
>>>> the smallest unit of content, that makes sense on its own.
>>>>
>>>> have fun!
>>>> mario
>>>>
>>>
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