Hi HC Here are my comments to your two posts:
1) Yes, I realize that TiddlyWiki has had bi-directional linking all along, just that the links back were hidden in the information section in the more menu. But I had to call it that in order to communicate to people familiar with Roam. As you said, the key new element is making the references explicit as they are in Roam. (I would add that the accessible links back to regexp references is also an important element in my system, also copying Roam). I did not take your comments as bashing on the name. 2) Glad to see your excitement. I also saw a lot of movement on Twitter and have a bunch of new followers, something I never expected (I don't actually do much with Twitter, it was more about letting people know about TiddlyWiki as an alternative for those who find Roam helpful but aren't ready to commit to it - Roam is in beta, and when it is stable it will cost $30/mo). The creator of Roam even weighed in on my tweet with a compliment and suggestions. 3) Glad also to see you trying to integrate my experiments with your plugin. I am not a possessive type. I basically create things for my needs, and showcase them when I think they might be helpful for others. My emphasis is usually not on features so much as a workflow I have in mind, and the combination of features needed to get to that workflow. So I am not so interested in creating plugins or maintaining sites, just in creating what I need, and maybe get others to see how my workflow could help them. If you can refine your TOC generic plugin with something I have done, great! No need to even credit me. 4) Parenthesis: In the case of TiddlyBlink, my workflow is "read, create book tiddler, create chapter tiddler, create a note for each insight in the chapter, connect notes by linking so that under any topic I can see notes from any book chapters, and then build an outline of topical links by copying new entries in the Recent tab and organizing them into the outline. So the notes don't even need titles, thus the datetimestamp idea, which then makes me want to hide the ugly datetimestamp titles. 4) I agree with you about the standard theme color classes. Good catch, I hadn't thought of that, since I don't think much beyond what I would want out of a given experiment. Go for it! 5) I agree with you about showing only one thing at a time (links, context-as-links or full-transclude-as-links). I would like each button to select the item and turn the others off. I made a comment in one of my original posts that the TiddlyWiki documentation doesn't show how to do that, even though you would think it would be important for theme switchers, palette switchers, stylesheet switchers, etc. So that is beyond my current skills. Again, go for it! 6) Finally, getting to your hybrid, I liked your plugin as it was, but I think this mashup is a good step for refining it. Great work. A few suggestions: 6a) Each of our systems has features that the other doesn't. My system ignores tags and list fields, and focuses only on the mentions in the text field. So yours is more comprehensive in that regard. On the other hand, TiddlyBlink creates links to all the tiddlers that also reference the current tiddler title in non-linked text. Your mashup of our work loses that. Figure out how to incorporate regexp references from tiddler fields, and you will have all the components. Why not have your results be divided into "Tagged references", "List field references" and "Text field references [which includes links]". 6b) I agree, hiding the checkboxes and "click the gray box" stuff is nicer, especially when there is nothing to see. That is a nice feature of your plugin. 6c) In your mashup, the checkbox for links would be unnecessary since the initial reults are the links. 6d) Note that the most recent version of TiddlyBlink fixed the problem of the gray boxes showing regular text in blue. Anyway, great work. Blessings to you. On Tuesday, January 28, 2020 at 2:15:04 AM UTC-6, HC Haase wrote: > > Hi Dave > > I am excited about this. So I couldn't help myself. As a test I have put > your blink into my TOC generic plugin. This means that your blink stuff > only shows when relevant (like the toc generic plugin). This is just a test > so layout could still be better. > Hope you like it. > > Other thoughts > > 1. I think it could be really cool if we could show the cool context > stuff that Dave is doing, but only if there is anything to show. So no > (click > any gray box below to access its tiddler) if there is nothing to show > or no option to show transclusions if the text field is empty etc. > 2. Maybe only show one mode at a time, so either links or transclude > or context..?? > 3. This is for later, but I have a plea. Please use some standard > theme colour classes so the colours will follow the theme. If you have a > grey box hardcoded guess what happens when you change to a dark theme with > grey text. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/dbdfc880-3351-420d-8706-f08b1ff99d26%40googlegroups.com.
