Eric,

Very nicely put. Totally agree too.

Love you work
Tony

On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 12:53:37 PM UTC+11, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 2:40:14 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> I love Eric's work here, though if you go back to my recent toc thread I 
>> specifically demonstrated calculating the level. In part so you can build 
>> your own toc. Eric's work is great but as features are added it gets harder 
>> for others to  customise.
>>
>> The feature rich solutions are valuable like Eric's but the do it 
>> yourself code patterns can reduce the need to maintain feature rich 
>> solutions.
>>
>> How often do we need all the features?
>>
>
> One of Jeremy's basic guiding principles in creating TiddlyWiki is to make 
> customization more accessible for the untrained "non-technical" user.
>
> While "do-it-yourself code patterns" are very important for people who are 
> somewhat coding-proficient, there are many people who are not 
> programming-oriented and simply wish to have a "feature-rich solution" 
> ready-made for them.  In addition, even for the coding-proficient user, 
> there is the effect of "feature creep", where the initial custom 
> implementation is straightforward, but rapidly increases in complexity as 
> the desire for adding "just one more feature" starts to set in.
>
> For example, as you and I have both shown, building a basic recursive TOC 
> is relatively simple (once you grasp the initial concepts of recursion in 
> TiddlyWiki), but adding such commonly-desired features as 
> selective opening/closing of branches, drag-and-drop reordering, and 
> currentTiddler highlighting are much harder to achieve for most casual 
> TiddlyWiki users and even for some of the more advanced TiddlyWiki 
> developers.
>
> Of course, it is always satisfying when people can "follow my trail" to 
> achieving their own complex solutions, but that is not something that 
> should be required or even expected from most users.
>
> Providing the appropriate balance between complexity and customization is 
> often a subtle (and time-consuming) endeavor.  This is where the "art" of 
> programming and the experience of many years of developing software meet, 
> and fully tested, plug-and-play solutions such as my TOC code come into the 
> picture.  I don't expect (nor do I encourage) people to customize the 
> internals of my TOC code.  Even so, in anticipation of differing use-cases, 
> I have factored some of my code to isolate certain key parts so that they 
> can be more readily customized; e.g., TiddlyTools/TOC/Template, which 
> controls the rendering of content for each individual TOC entry.
>
> -e
>

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