Wow, TonyM, that is fantastic!

Questions:

1. Can I edit tiddlers that are already packaged, rather than have to go 
through the packaging process again? (I have already made changes to two 
documentation tiddlers, and don't want to bother you every time I make 
minor edits)

2. The tiddlers that start with $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refs... have the 
$:/tags/ViewTemplate tag removed, so the checkboxes do not appear in the 
TiddlyBlink sidebar tab. And "5. Learn more about TiddlyWiki 
<https://giffmex.org/gifts/tiddlyblink.html#5.%20Learn%20more%20about%20TiddlyWiki>",
 
which is in the package, does not show up in the list on the "TiddlyBlink' 
tiddler. Does your process remove certain tags from the packaged tiddlers?

3. Is it possible for the package to be a system tiddler? Not a 
deal-breaker, but would mean that the All and Recent tabs would be clean 
for the user.

4. I need to update that list of tiddlers to include. At that point can I 
ask you to do a new packaging of the list?

Thanks again, this is really helpful.


On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 11:19:59 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
> David,
>
> I saw that you suggest dragging and dropping a large number of tiddlers to 
> install tiddlyblink in another wiki. I did a quick experiment that had such 
> good results I thought I would share the result with you.
>
> Drop the attached file on an empty tiddlywiki and *save and reload*. 
>
> It is basically a plugin package with all the suggested tiddlers.
>
> If you install it on your site a simple link in a tiddler 
> [[TiddlyBlink Package]]
> can be dragged and dropped on any wiki
>
> All the tiddlers will be there also as shadow tiddlers as its a simple 
> plugin
>
> I must document what I did, if I can remember
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 8:35:38 AM UTC+11, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Mark S: I did not try your plugin because I was in the process of writing 
>> a large amount of new documentation as well as changing some of the system 
>> tiddlers.
>>
>> Everyone: Please have a look at a significant update to TiddlyBlink (
>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/tiddlyblink.html). I think this is cleaner and 
>> adds more functionality and options.
>>
>> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 2:13:36 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> You might consider listing the required and recommended plugins in your 
>>> documentation, and maybe where to get them. I was
>>> going to do that in the attached files readme, but ran out of time (see 
>>> below).
>>>
>>> Usually you would not package other peoples' plugins inside of yours, 
>>> even though that might seem convenient. There's the
>>> possibility of plugin conflict, for one thing. 
>>>
>>> I've attached a first pass at making your project into a plugin. I just 
>>> used Tinka, which makes the process pretty easy.
>>>
>>> The main non-intuitive thing is the names for the readme files. They're 
>>> your stem name ($:/plugins/giffmex/tiddlyblink/) followed by "readme", 
>>> "dependents", etc.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 11:46:01 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Mark! Works great. I am making some additional documentation and 
>>>> options for TiddlyBlink, and will notify here when it is ready.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 12:28:18 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm. It's the colons in your default names. The colon is used as a key 
>>>>> separator in the data dictionary. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok. Delete "TiddlyBlinkFoldData" Now when you run and click on unfold, 
>>>>> it will create a JSON data dictionary which is immune to the ":" problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 9:45:48 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I uploaded it for you to see at 
>>>>>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/tbmetemplatetestfolding.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 11:42:11 AM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Needless to say, it works perfectly when I do it. See below Maybe 
>>>>>>> you could send me or link me what you're doing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 9:27:52 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your kind and patient efforts to improve TiddlyBlink.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I installed your json attachment in an empty file of TB, and 
>>>>>>>> refreshed, then created 'Parent topic' and with the clock button 
>>>>>>>> created 
>>>>>>>> two child tiddlers. The unfold icon appears for each in the parent 
>>>>>>>> tiddler, 
>>>>>>>> but nothing happens when I click the icon. Interestingly, the child 
>>>>>>>> tiddlers DID show something, but when I clicked hide, it completely 
>>>>>>>> hid it, 
>>>>>>>> with no unhide button or anything, so it disappeared completely. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 11:10:22 AM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's something to try. The attached makes changes to 
>>>>>>>>> $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstransclude 
>>>>>>>>> and adds a tiddler to track states.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This adds a "fold" or "unfold" icon next to each title. The 
>>>>>>>>> default is folded.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The states of folding are saved in a single data tiddler, so you 
>>>>>>>>> don't have to worry about a lot of background tiddlers building up. 
>>>>>>>>> The 
>>>>>>>>> downside is that the state will be forgotten when the tiddler name is 
>>>>>>>>> changed. Since that is likely to be infrequent, and only results in a 
>>>>>>>>> tiddler defaulting to the closed state, that seems like a minor price 
>>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>>> pay.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just drag and drop (I assume you have backups ;-) )
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 11:15:51 AM UTC-8, David Gifford 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would love this, and it would imitate Roam on this point, but I 
>>>>>>>>>> am not sure how it would work. Wouldn't each tiddler need a separate 
>>>>>>>>>> state 
>>>>>>>>>> tiddler? That would affect # of tiddlers and filesize and I am 
>>>>>>>>>> assuming it 
>>>>>>>>>> would hasten the moment when the file would become sluggish. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If someone were to come up with a viable snippet as to how to do 
>>>>>>>>>> It, I am willing to try it. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Suggestion -- a reveal/hide button around transclusions, so 
>>>>>>>>>>> you're not overwhelmed by larger texts
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

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