On Sunday, March 1, 2020 at 7:30:32 AM UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> .... AND, again, note that this little "injected scribble" is probably so 
> special that it doesn't fulfill tiddler criteria. It will not be reused and 
> totally belonged to the context. It is a technological limitation that 
> forces us to store it as a separate tiddler.
>

I think, you are probably right. It is a technical challenge, even today, 
which imo is out of the scope of a browser based "mini software". 

It's the nature of a "text"-editor to be designed to create text ... only. 

Mixing *and inline editing* text and drawings once was introduced in 
Microsoft products in 1990. For those of us, which are old enough using 
those products, I just say: Object Linking and Embedding 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_Linking_and_Embedding> (OLE). .. 
Which, from my point of view, was the same as "shooting in your own foot". 

Directly embedding 50+ screenshot images into a word ".doc" document, if it 
worked at all, only worked on the PC it was created. ..

Just to be sure. I'm talking about a time where computer main memory was 
measured in 1-4 MegaByte and a "write once" *CD*-ROM costed 10+€s .. per CD!
The main and cheap backup medium were many  31⁄2" Floppy-disk 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy_disk>s with 1.44 MByte capacity. ... 

Such an "embedding" document could easily add up to 100 MByte. 

On the other hand *linking* images, as used by products like FrameMaker 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_FrameMaker> 3.0 or 4.0 created 1 file 
that was about 100 *k*Byte in size + size of 50+ single file gif's. 
IMO the linking concept, for these type of projects, had major advantages, 
over embedding. .. IMO that's still true.

Today's Office Suites if installed locally, need several 100s of giga-Byte 
disk space to accomplish mixing and inline editing 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument_software> different media types 
within "1" Suite, which consists of several apps. 

So ... yes it is a technical challenge, which is probably a little bit out 
of TWs scope. 

On the other hand TW can handle tiddler transclusions with ease!! See: 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Images%20in%20WikiText so we should be happy to be 
able to use it that way. 

IMO an "out of the box" TiddlyWiki is a multi-OS interchangeable notes 
platform, which allows sharing _and_ editing information.

If you want to share "Office" files and you want an "out of the box" 
experience, you better go with PDFs.

Just some thoughts. 

have fun!
mario

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