Hi Tony!
See my replies in *bold*

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 6:18 PM TonyM <[email protected]> wrote:

> Saq et all,
>
> This is great collaborative work, I just thought I would add a Quick
> observation and express a desirable feature.
>
> But first I love the versatility of two stories, thank you. And Saq put
> your health first, I know I have to as well, after eye surgery.
>
>
>    - I opened a table of Contents like tiddler in a new window and click,
>    ctrl-click (open but do not navigate) and shift-click into second story
>    work very well. This is a good way of controlling what appears in each
>    story, I call this remote control of the story(s). Please keep this
>    opportunity in mind while refining this.
>    - Give the above I am keen to retain the ability to have one or more
>    tiddlers in each story. Perhaps the ideal way to do this is to allow each
>    story to select its story view.
>
> *This is already set up. Use TiddlyWiki's story view to control the left,
and the tab for Stories to control the story view to the right. They will
get put together in that tab later.*

>
>    - Perhaps our Gurus can help with this. Jeremy has being floating new
>    page layout options that hinted at two stories. I think this functionality
>    is very useful especially with so many widescreen laptops and desktop
>    screens out their now, not to mention those wide gaming screens. Of course
>    it's not so much about mobiles but it is certainly very good for designers
>    and some solutions.
>
> Optional extra concept, I hope to further this but it is not too easy to
> express, let me hint at it,
>
>    - If each open story column could have optional top left bar, top
>    centre, and Top right bar and above story as well as the bottom/footer
>    equivalents this would be helpful.
>
>
>    - If the Wiki top had elements left, centreleft, centre, centre right,
>    right and the footer equivalent, with a choice of fixed or scrollable
>    options.
>    - If the above headers could be cloned so one could have more than one
>    at the top or bottom.
>    - All of the above in a flexible responsive mobile layout.
>    - If the elements only showed if they had content but would show with
>    a default Justification Left, Centre and Right etc...
>    - The similar 5 elements in vertical sidebars with the centre element
>    fixed (like current sidebar)
>
>
*These things sound like elements of a very different but worthwhile
project. The present project is about imitating functionality found in
Roam, not about a grid for customizable layout. Maybe once we are done with
this project there will be someone who wants to take something like that
on, for the core or as a plugin. Maybe Saq might want to make a
StoriesGridPlugin to build on this.*

>
> With both two or multiple stories and this dynamic layout I find it hard
> to imagine not being able to replicate the design of almost any website
> layout in tiddlywiki not to mention plenty of new innovative layouts.
>
> Mario has being working on saving multiple stories so his ideas may go
> well with the two story model.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 3:05:52 AM UTC+10, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> I am sharing my two story tiddlywiki setup that I have been using for the
>> last couple of years, as it has come to my attention that there is still
>> some interest in this. This isn't really designed to be freely reusable at
>> this point and is still rough around the edges, but hopefully it proves
>> useful. I am planning to rewrite this from scratch based on my learnings in
>> the near future.
>>
>> This was done more as a proof of concept and if I re-did this today the
>> UI would be significantly different. I implemented this in 2017 partly as
>> an exercise in learning TW5 (I was a long time TWC user years ago) and it
>> worked better than anticipated so I have just kept using it without taking
>> the time to refine it. So it can definitely do with some cleanup in terms
>> of code and CSS. Currently the CSS is responsive, below a certain width the
>> sidebar is hidden and if the screen is even smaller it defaults to a one
>> stop layout. It's also optimized with larger screens in mind (1920px+ width)
>>
>> Furthermore some parts could be better streamlined now that I understand
>> TW5 a lot better and also due to some welcome changes in the core.
>>
>> http://sq-twostories.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> Let me know if anything doesn't work, I've ripped this out of a larger
>> and more complex TiddlyWiki and hopefully I got all the important bits.
>>
>>    - Shift click links to open in the other story
>>    - Shift click the edit button to edit in the other story - I probably
>>    use this feature the most.
>>    - Dropzones above each story - not as useful as I had first expected
>>    - Each tiddler has a "divert" button in the toolbar that opens it in
>>    the other story.
>>    - Screen width > 1920, you get two stories and the normal sidebar
>>    - Screen width > 1920 %% < 1280, the sidebar overlaps the second
>>    story and can be hidden
>>    - Screen width < 1280, the second story is hidden
>>
>> If you add this as is to a TiddlyWiki with a custom theme, you more than
>> likely will need to adapt the css a fair bit.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Saq
>>
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