Hi Areln, On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:28:10 PM UTC+4:30, Arlen Beiler wrote: > > In this test, was the wiki a single-file wiki or a data folder? And I'm > assuming from the way you wrote it that you were running TiddlyServer, not > Node TiddlyWiki (which would be a datafolder), right? > I tested using wiki folder. I used the portable Node.js + Tiddlywiki 5.1.22
--Mohammad > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 1:09 PM Mohammad <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Arlen, >> I did some tests! I see around 40-55MB when node is idle and around >> 86-92MB when it is active (e.g TW is opened in browser and one edits it) >> >> [image: pic-33.png] >> So, node seems hungry and eats memory! >> >> Amazingly TWexe assume 4MB per wiki and Apache when is used 33MB (16 + >> 18) but none have the feature you have on node.js >> The Twexe and Apache serve single .html >> >> Just for information >> >> --Mohammad >> >> >> >> On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 6:24:21 PM UTC+4:30, Arlen Beiler wrote: >>> >>> Ok, I ran top to see what the memory actually is. My computer is a 16 GB >>> machine. TiddlyWiki on Node uses 150 MB. TiddlyServer used 100 MB per wiki >>> (approximately), but less than 30 MB when no wikis were loaded (sorry, top >>> only listed the first page of results). Now, given Node's memory >>> management, I would guess that a more constrained environment would use >>> less, so I'm curious what results other people get. >>> >>> In my mind, this is huge, so I'm not surprised people need a way around >>> it, but I'm not sure what the culprit is. I'll do some digging. All I know >>> is it's it's big on Node TiddlyWiki and on TiddlyServer both, so it's >>> probably somewhere in TiddlyWiki. >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 8:47 AM Arlen Beiler <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> People have in the past had problems with memory consumption when using >>>> data folders and because TiddlyServer is intended to load data folders as >>>> faithfully as possible, Jed created Bob, which does things a little >>>> different but still works with almost all data folders. However the latest >>>> raspberry pi should have enough memory to be able to handle TiddlyServer >>>> quite easily. I’m assuming one would get the 4 GB version if you’re going >>>> to use it for a server anyway. So I’m guessing this isn’t as big of a >>>> problem as it used to be. >>>> >>>> Single file wikis on the other hand shouldn’t take much memory. The >>>> TiddlyServer documentation says how to enable back ups for single file >>>> wikis. And the WebDAV saver works as expected, unlike Apache. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 04:16 Mohammad <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Further to the instruction by Arlen one can download simplesrv >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/lucsan/simpserv >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> and create a readonly webserver to fire any single .html Tiddlywiki. >>>>> >>>>> So, it possible to have a portable webserver for Tiddlywiki (and >>>>> holding plugin libraries) on a thumb drive >>>>> The size of server 14MB if one use Node.JS 6.x >>>>> >>>>> In summary >>>>> >>>>> 1. Follow the instruction by Arlen above, lets you have a tiny >>>>> NodeJS+Tiddlywiki server (read/write/save) + (Arlen may guide us to >>>>> create >>>>> backup) >>>>> 2. Add the simpleserv above to have a readonly webserver on another >>>>> port >>>>> 3. Put all in folder on a thumb drive >>>>> >>>>> The above setup is small and can be used on Raspberry Pi and similar >>>>> device. >>>>> >>>>> I am thinking one can put whole of these on an old Android cell phone >>>>> and setup a portable NodeJS+Tiddlywiki server >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 1:23:32 AM UTC+4:30, Arlen Beiler wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Another way is to download the zip file from NodeJS.org, and copy the >>>>>> node.exe file into the tiddlywiki folder, then (on windows) run >>>>>> "node.exe >>>>>> tiddlywiki.js". You can download the tiddlywiki folder from GitHub. It >>>>>> sounds like that is slightly more complicated than your method, but just >>>>>> thought I'd mention it. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 4:01 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> If you use "-g", isn't it putting the data down in your user drive? Or >>>>>>> is it smart enough to put it all on the thumb drive ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Plus, in the past, node had a habit of creating empty directories in >>>>>>> the app/roaming directories even if you had specified specific local >>>>>>> directories. This would be hard to detect unless you test on a machine >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> has never used node.js at all. That is, is it possible that bread >>>>>>> crumbs >>>>>>> are being left even if you use a portable device? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You may like to have a Tiddlywiki on Node.js with all its features >>>>>>>> on a thumb drive! >>>>>>>> Or a Plug and Play Tiddlywiki. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If so, this is a short instruction for Windows user. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Download the portable Node.js: (NodeJSPortable_6.14.2.zip) >>>>>>>> from here >>>>>>>> https://github.com/garethflowers/nodejs-portable/releases >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. Unzip on your thumb drive in the folder of choice >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3. Run NodeJSPortable.exe >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 4. In the command window appears install Tiddlywiki with below >>>>>>>> command (you need internet access) >>>>>>>> npm install -g tiddlywiki >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 5. That's all >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Make a test >>>>>>>> 1. Create a new wiki, by entering below command >>>>>>>> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. Run your wiki by entering below command >>>>>>>> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --listen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3. Open a browser (FF, Chrome, Edge, Safari, ...) and >>>>>>>> visit http://127.0.0.1:8080/ in your browser >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It has all the same features as Tiddlywiki on NodeJS, plus, it >>>>>>>> leaves no personal information behind on the machine you run it on, so >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> can take it with you wherever you go. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is another journey in Tiddlywiki wonderland. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --Mohammad >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9bc1ec76-a308-472c-b99c-f66e5dd31519%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9bc1ec76-a308-472c-b99c-f66e5dd31519%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/0e7967b9-7f71-4c0b-93cb-f6bd2a8e76ce%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/0e7967b9-7f71-4c0b-93cb-f6bd2a8e76ce%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/4370f38d-0525-4c49-839b-3cad6df6bb19%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/4370f38d-0525-4c49-839b-3cad6df6bb19%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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