Hi Saq

Thanks for your input.

FYI, your @media solution made no observable change. (I thought @media was 
for printing instructions?)

Regarding close others: I think a simple instruction that the close others 
button only closes tiddlers in that river is sufficient.

Regarding imitating Roam: I like the current set up we have, much of Roam 
functionality, but presented in a TiddlyWiki way. I don't feel the need to 
imitate Roam further than that. The instructions will make it clear how to 
use it in ways similar to Roam.

To be honest, the only changes I think I would like are:

1) *If possible*, reduce that space between rivers when sidebar closed
2) *If possible*, have the top of the tiddler that opens in the story river 
be flush with the top of the left tiddler top when opening the former with 
shift-click. The scrollbar opens slightly down from the top.
3) Tooltips (I was looking into that when I saw your email come in)
4) I will reduce the number of themes available in the theme switcher
5) I will do tutorial videos and organize the front page and necessary 
written instructions
6) I will separate the instructions version and an empty version, a la 
tiddlywiki.com

Blessings, Saq.


On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:50:48 PM UTC-5, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> For issue #1, gap between stories, try adding this at the bottom 
> of $:/_sq/Stories/Stories.css. I haven't had a chance to test this properly 
> and won't have a chance to put out an update for a few days yet, but I 
> suspect its the culprit for issue #1. Zoomin storyview has slightly 
> different css, which I have never noticed since I don't use it.
>
> @media (min-width: 
> {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/sidebarbreakpoint}}) {
> .tc-storyview-zoomin-tiddler {
> width: calc(100% - 42px);
> }
> }
>
>
> For the issue of the close others button, as Dave has discovered, they 
> only work for the tiddlers in that story. Should they close tiddlers in the 
> other story too? I don't know. There are valid arguments for both 
> behaviours. It really depends highly on the workflow you envision. I 
> suspect there will be no clear answers until a few people use this in anger 
> and report back.
>
> Regarding needing a wide window, and comparisons to Roam etc:
>
> It honestly boils down to what we are trying to do here. Are we trying to 
> copy and duplicate the Roam UI? Or are we taking inspiration from it, to 
> offer better affordance for some of the same features and workflow in TW?
>
> It would be incredibly easy to get closer to the Roam UI: narrower second 
> story with no margin or padding on the left, without tiddler toolbar just 
> the x button to close etc. All that is needed is CSS and tweaking some 
> templates. However that would also reduce the amount of flexibilty in 
> workflow offered. Right now the second story can do everything that the 
> first one can. 
>
> In many ways, this is the same dilemma TW always faces. Simplify to make 
> it easier to get started and enable a narrow selection of workflows, or 
> keep it as flexibile as possible but at the cost of more complexity? 
>
> Regards,
> Saq
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:30:36 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Looking at updating TiddlyBlink with the features explained in this link: 
>> two columns of tiddlers, folding tiddlers, moving tiddlers between columns. 
>> A HUGE thank you to Saq Imtiaz and TonyM for their help with this.
>>
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/tiddlyblink.experiment.html
>>
>> Known things to fix:
>>
>> 1) Wide gap between columns when the sidebar is open *(we will probably 
>> leave this alone for now, very minor issue)*
>> 2) Sidebar should probably close by default when shift clicking to start 
>> a new column *(fixed: problem was a width setting)*
>> 3) Close others in viewtoolbar is not working properly* (I just need to 
>> explain in instructions that it only works within the same story, not 
>> across stories)*
>> 4) Completely redo the instructions. *(I plan to do video instructions)*
>>
>> Comments? Frustrations? Confusion? Questions?
>>
>

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