1. I would love to know, from the three or four of you working on similar ideas at the same time: what was your inspiration to do this? Was it because you saw the outliner in Roam? Was it because you have been using Dynalist in the TiddlyWiki toolmap? Was it a post in this forum expressing someone's desire to be able to have outliner functionality in TiddlyWiki? Or was there some other catalyst? Follow up question, why do you think you are all doing this *now*, as opposed to last year or even before? What is new about this moment that it sparked several people independently to work on the ability to do outlines at the exact same time? Reminds me of Steven Johnson's ideas in his (enjoyable) book Where Good Ideas Come From.
2. I would recommend not using 'Dynalist' as the plugin name. First, copyright issues. Second, Dynalist was not the first to do this. Workflowy was prior, and Mac has OmniOutliner or somesuch. Dynalist's main innovation was the ability to create multiple documents with outliners in each. Third, if Dynalist poops out someday, the plugin name will lose its meaning except for those who remembered it. (granted, I hope Dynalist never dies out, I have a lot of notes on there!) 3. Also, please avoid using 'table of contents' or 'outline' in the name. That will greatly limit the imagination of users. In fact, This has many possibilities: a) Obviously the main one is it makes the writing process of any document more flexible. Reorder and indent paragraphs, etc b) The easy reuse of one or multiple snippets from one project in another project, with immediate editing options that apply to both. c) Yes, the creation of outlines, review sheets, taxonomies and tables of contents. d) If there is a hide button, could be used for quizzes e) A rename button, or at least a way to open the tiddler, would open up other possibilities. f) This would be great for lists with longer content (listicles, lists of quotes, commentaries on text such as biblical text etc) where one does not want to deal with titles, but where one might want to have ideas that are (in this context) adjacent yet (ultimately) independent. g) As with most innovations, there are likely many uses that we can't foresee as of yet. And maybe things we think it will be great for that it will not be great for.) 4. It will be interesting to see how this affects, or not, file slowdown in different use cases. 5. It will be interesting to experiment on seeing how well these projects might integrate with backlinks a la Stroll. That is, will an outline node be related somehow to its parent tiddler? To its parent node? Both? Neither? Will there be benefit in opening the tiddler of a node in order to see its list of references? Might nodes serve as links in a chain between two tiddlers, like the notes in my Idea Stew do? I hope this is all an encouragement to you all who are working on these projects - you are sparking much creative thought. Blessings. On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 10:22 AM Chris Nicoll <[email protected]> wrote: > This looks fantastic, Saq. It's so close to something I'm working on, but > you're ahead of me. I should pause and do something else while you and > bimlas do the heavy lifting. Plugin or pattern, it will be very popular. > > On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 5:44:31 PM UTC-4, Saq Imtiaz wrote: >> >> When I'm under the weather I tend to prototype. Spent some time reworking >> code from my eternally in progress task manager in an attempt to make it >> more general purpose, as a bullet list note taking tool that may be of >> utility to others. >> >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SB06s13tj8P3cC2UewnfzXf08UQ7jwYK/view?usp=drivesdk >> >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SLESm6OIfHsScwYePGOs5ce3o3wpQ0CO/view?usp=drivesdk >> >> - everything except the dragging is keyboard driven >> - each bullet is a separate tiddler. Lots of different pros and cons to >> this approach, but was ideal for a task manager. >> - this is all in wikitext, no extra JS. >> >> Will post the file in the near future, a bit more clean up needed. Don't >> expect a final product, but rather a pattern to follow that would hopefully >> help anyone wanting to implement similar workflow. >> >> Cheers, >> Saq >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/KeVDndcnY0g/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/4abeefb9-75c3-4d5e-a470-e0297b0c79d8%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/4abeefb9-75c3-4d5e-a470-e0297b0c79d8%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CANE%3DBF%2BrGr_5wFsmBM4m83MCdxz_8d0bJyXLOHZrW9whYvb2YA%40mail.gmail.com.
