Hi Saq, Thanks for the response. No worries, I understand the difficulties involved. :)
As for the usecase, I just thought that easy indentation would be crucial to a hierarchical outlining plugin like this, at least that is something that I have been finding useful with Roam and Dynalist as I used to use them extensively for research purposes along with other operations like the ones you have mentioned. I was looking for a more local first OSS tool, which is where I though TiddlyWiki with the plugin ecosystem shined with plugins like yours. Anyway, these were more like a feature request than a feedback, so don't be bothered with it. I am still enjoying the tool. :) On Thursday, June 11, 2020 at 6:52:37 PM UTC+5:30, Saq Imtiaz wrote: > > Replies to some of the feedback below: > > *Single-click to edit:* will not be offered as an option unless we can > find a reliable way of doing so while still allowing users to click on > external links, and copy text as a selection, without inadvertently > triggering editing. > > *Modal approach to editing:* I have no idea what this means. Modals have > a very specific meaning in TW. As explained earlier, this is not an attempt > at at WYSIWYG editor. As is the norm in TW, there is a separation between > viewing content and editing it. If someone implements a WYSIWYG editor for > wikitext, you could easily use that within Streams. Implementing one within > Streams is far outside the scope of this plugin. Having to specifically > decide to edit a different tiddler is not only necessary, but intentional > from a design point of view. > > *Backspace, arrow up/down behavior:* with the default widgets we have > available in TW, complex and conditional handling of keys is simply not > possible. For instance, enabling backspace at the beginning of some text to > combine that node with the previous one, would disable the backspace key > for all other usage in the editor. The keystroke is trapped by the widget, > there is no means to conditionally pass it through for the default > behavior. > > So implementing this kind of behavior would require a custom JavaScript > plugin, and even then the behavior wont be quite as requested as once > again, this isn't WYSIWYG. While I could write such a plugin, I am > realistic that I would not have the time to support and maintain it. > Therefore my focus is on using core widgets and community plugins, and only > writing JavaScript when absolutely essential or trivial. If someone wants > to take a crack at a more elaborate plugin for handling key bindings, I > will be happy to provide input and guidance, and make use of it in Streams. > > *Performance: *I am probably not the best placed to comment on > performance. I have a wiki with 6000 tiddlers that runs fine, but I use > very little in terms of complex list filters and backlinks, tags etc. > Others may be better placed to advise on this. > > *Personally I see three kinds of situations in which I would use this as > is today:* > - for longer text that benefits from structure, order and hierarchy. > Writing an essay, or project documentation. In this case each tiddler would > be a paragraph or longer. So you would not end up with more tiddlers than > you normally would, you just get a more convenient workflow for the writing > process and dividing your writing into tiddlers as you go. > - for short pieces of text that are somewhat transient in nature, e.g task > lists. You delete or archive them as they are completed. The Roadmap > tiddler in the demo is a good example of this. > - to compose text that will require significant re-ordering etc while > writing, and then export it to a static/regular tiddler > > If you primarily using this to be able to easily indent/unindent text, > then you're using it for a purpose other than what it is designed for and > arguably would be better served by other tools. > > Cheers, > Saq > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2e902077-1e79-4d43-b0bc-0a64c7397d8do%40googlegroups.com.
