I now wrote this on Github at https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4290#issuecomment-645625262 <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4290#issuecomment-645625262>
I just commented on GG about this again at: [The Profligate > "P"](https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/YGRzd6fd8q0/GjFEmh-3BwAJ). > Any movement? > If this can't be fixed I think it should at least be ***Documented!*** > Undocumented I am sure its causing problems that _*users won't understand*_. > I myself only stumbled on it by accident when a precise CSS cascade stopped > working because I wrote ```*<h3>*``` not ```*!!!*``` in a tiddler. Took > hours to pin down. > Some resolution on this, please! IF you use GitHub please review this issue! It is one of the bigger unresolved issues. TT On Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:15:50 UTC+2, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Looking at the thread ... > https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4290#issuecomment-546708220 I > had deja-vu. > I realized I commented on it before! I had forgotten! > > I will again. > > TT > > On Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:25:23 UTC+2, PMario wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 11:07:50 AM UTC+2, TiddlyTweeter wrote: >> >> >>> Now for* Tiddler 2* CONTENT >>> >>> <h3>Test Level 3 Header In HTML</h3> >>> >>> ... RENDER is INcorrect, with excess <P>s >>> >>> <div class="tc-tiddler-body tc-reveal"> >>> <p><h3>Test Level 3 Header In HTML</h3></p> >>> </div> >>> >>> It is confusing & can create layout issues?? >>> >> >> You are absolutely right. Not only does it create layout problems, it >> also creates html-code, that is "out of" html spec. (This isn't a real >> problem for most users, since browsers are very forgiving rendering "spec >> violations"). >> >> Eg: a paragrph <p> tag "should" only contain "phrasing content >> <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/Content_categories#Phrasing_content>". >> >> As you can see: headings <h> are _no_ phrasing content. Paragraphs are >> phrasing content. ... They should not even contain <p> childs. >> >> As you found out this can cause all sorts of problems. Theming isn't the >> most problematic. There are others too. >> >> There is a PR at github: Improve p generation >> <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4290>. from githubuser: >> nilslindeman, which seems to have done a "deep dive" into exactly this >> problem, we introduced with the TW wikitext-parser. >> >> In the PR Nils discusses the problems the existing behaviour creates and >> a possible solution. In a response from Oct. 2019 Jeremy wrote >> <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4290#issuecomment-538729125>: >> >> >> One of the problems in this area is that any improvements will inevitably >>> break backwards compatibility, because that's rather the point: this is a >>> situation where we explicitly want to change the current behaviour. >>> >> >> The important point for me here is: "*this is a situation where we >> explicitly want to change the current behaviour*". ... But ... There >> still is TWs "backwards compatibility" paradigm, which is mentioned in the >> same sentence. >> >> The GH discussion also mentions Arlen's PR >> <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4285>, which did have a >> different "take" and didn't get far enough for Nils. >> >> As you can see, the PR is stalled since Nov.2019... I think the main >> reason is, that Nils is OK with his own branch. (That's my personal guess >> only) >> >> There is the "last" statement from Nils: >> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4290#issuecomment-546708220 >> which (for me) point out, that the whole thing wouldn't hurt backwards >> compatibility. It will fix the bugs. >> >> We would need to compare the "static" output created with TW node version >> and the output created by Nils's feature branch. ... So we can see the >> differences. >> >> IMO the PR is stalled, because nobody bumped it since then. ... So you >> may be the one? >> >> have fun! >> mario >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/57d83696-a274-40e3-ba1f-3d420ce9512ao%40googlegroups.com.
