Thank you so much Måns! Your coding taught me many valuable bits.

I have reworked your code and put up the result here;
http://groupies.tiddlyspot.com/
(username=password=groupies)

(A smaller/simpler list-tool for "few item lists" is also there, i.e
lists that don't require grouping.)

However, there is still one major problem and that is the last part
you mention above, suggesting MatchTags; I've experimented with that
and a zillion other ways, but I can't get it to work. The output from
matchtags does not seem to be in an appropriate format as input to a
fET. I've also tried with "fETs as parameter input to fET" and loads
of different combos. No cigar, as can be seen in the link above.. :-(

I.e the problem is to, for fET parameter input, get all the tiddlers
that are tags to Group tiddlers?

Thank you again!


On Jan 26, 2:32 am, Måns <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi again> +"|>|>|<<tiddler [[fET&TT&NS##notCat]] with: [[category]]\>\> |f\n"
>
> should have been "with: [[item]]" of course..
> And the <<list filter tag expression needs MatchtagsPlugin
> (TiddlyTools) to work as intended..
>
> > A few minutes and I'll provide a testcase for you...
>
> I've made a minimal testcase for you, based on your first 
> example:http://twmtc.tiddlyspot.com/#fET%26TT%26NS
>
> You'll find the plugins in the timeline...
>
>  Regards Måns Mårtensson
>
>
>
> > On 26 Jan., 00:48, twgrp <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > TagglyTagging is one of my all time favorite plugins, but it doesn't
> > > quite fulfill what I'm asking for...  possibly due to a flaw;
>
> > > <<tagglyTagging [[Tag1]]>> should (IMO), in "group view", only list
> > > tiddlers tagged "Tag1". That is "what is asked for" when expressing
> > > that macro call, as far as I can tell. But as it is now it also lists
> > > *all other* tags that happen to appear in tiddlers that are tagged
> > > Tag1. IMO this results in potentially long lists and information not
> > > asked for.
>
> > > Mike, I appreciate the suggestion though as I had, strangely enough,
> > > not considered TagglyTagging. I'm doing some experimenting and will
> > > get back.
> > > Thank you.
>
> > > On Jan 25, 2:41 am, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > sounds like a job for TagglyTaggingPlugin . . .
>
> > > >http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#TagglyTagging%20TagglyTaggingPlugin
>
> > > > Looks like it will do what you are looking fo out of the box (unless I
> > > > missed something)
>
> > > > Good Luck,
>
> > > > Mike
>
> > > > On Jan 24, 7:30 pm, twgrp <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I give up. Three days of mutilating scripts and forEachTiddlers etc,
> > > > > not to mention digging in the archives... but I just can't crack this:
>
> > > > > I wish to create a list from tagged tiddlers like this (the format is
> > > > > Tiddler:Tags)
>
> > > > > ItemB:Category
> > > > > - ItemM: ItemB
> > > > > - ItemN:ItemB
> > > > > ItemC:Category
> > > > > - ItemB:ItemC (+tagged Category as seen above)
> > > > > - ItemN:ItemC (+tagged ItemA as seen above)
> > > > > - ItemQ:ItemC
> > > > > ItemA (not tagged Category therefore ending up after all categories
> > > > > are listed)
> > > > > ItemP
>
> > > > > Alternatively, more real example;
>
> > > > > China:Category
> > > > > - Plate:China
> > > > > - Saucer:China
> > > > > KitchenStuff:Category
> > > > > - China:KitchenStuff (+Category)
> > > > > - Plate:KitchenStuff (+China)
> > > > > - Tray:KitchenStuff
> > > > > ArmChair
> > > > > Table
>
> > > > > In short, there are three types of tags
> > > > > 1) Item (all are tagged with this, not shown in list above)
> > > > > 2) Category
> > > > > 3) names of 'Category tiddlers'
>
> > > > > Tagging items with "non-Category-tiddler-names" (e.g Plate or Table)
> > > > > affects nothing. However, items tagged with (2) or (3) appear ONLY as
> > > > > a Category and/or as a sub-item, i.e not as a separate item also. The
> > > > > idea is to shorten the list by categorizing things.
>
> > > > > Here untagged items come after categories, but it's ok if untagged
> > > > > items and categories are ordered together, i.e ItemA/ArmChair before
> > > > > ItemB/China above.
>
> > > > > For slick "sub-levelling" I intend to use ELS NestedSlidersPlugin[1].
> > > > > This means that whatever is put between +++ and === becomes a
> > > > > sublevel.
>
> > > > > I really hope someone can help out with this. It is a crucial part of
> > > > > a bigger project.
> > > > > Thank you.
>
> > > > > [1]http://www.tiddlytools.com/#NestedSlidersPlugin

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