Hi Saq,
Great tip. I will submit a ticket.
Cheers
Mohammad
On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 10:44:10 AM UTC+3:30 saq.i...@gmail.com
wrote:
> @springer So the dropzone widget which handles the import/paste/drag
> actually lets you specify how to interpret the incoming text.
>
> So theoretically something like this should work:
>
> <$dropzone deserializer="application/x-bibtex">
>
> paste/drag bibtex here
>
>
> </$dropzone>
>
> However, it turns out that the deserializer attribute is only honoured for
> files that are imported and not for text. This is worth creating an issue
> for on github, I think we can do better.
>
> Saq
> On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 1:45:33 AM UTC+1 springer wrote:
>
>> I just discovered this thread, while trying to understand related issues.
>>
>> My workflow includes, for example, coming a cross a citation in google
>> scholar, which I can display in bibtex format like so:
>>
>> @book{crary2016inside,
>> title={Inside ethics},
>> author={Crary, Alice},
>> year={2016},
>> publisher={Harvard University Press}
>> }
>>
>> I was hoping that dragging that text into Tiddlywiki would auto-populate
>> the fields. Instead, I get an ordinary tiddler with a text field that looks
>> exactly like the above block.
>>
>> What works: issuing a terminal command like pbpaste > crary.bib
>> ... which yields a .bib file ... which I can then drag into tw5 (for
>> import and recognition via bibtex plugin), but this is terribly roundabout.
>>
>> Why not be able to drag and drop the contents of a field-parsable string
>> (onto a special bibtex or json drop area if need be) and have tiddlywiki
>> parse directly, populating fields if field patterns are present?
>>
>> (Sorry that this question is framed with bibtex records in mind; but
>> presumably the issues are similar for any json-formatted strings on the
>> clipboard?)
>>
>> -Springer
>> On Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 7:58:27 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> In a similar vein for creating tiddlers from found text the OT and your
>>> desire for "loaded" new tiddlers, One idea I had was to create a tab in the
>>> side bar with a drop zone. Text dropped there would be imported silently
>>> and create a tiddler according to a set of standards and fields etc. A
>>> Second tab dropzone, could import the text another way. This method would
>>> do well to have the below templates idea.
>>>
>>> - David's point 1. Use the viewTemplate for untitled tiddlers and
>>> add this feature there (as in my last post)
>>>
>>> Templates idea
>>>
>>> TiddlyWiki is repeat with the concept of templates, as a result, I think
>>> perhaps we have somewhat neglected the use of tiddler templates for
>>> creating tiddlers. This should have a core representation so extra bespoke
>>> work is not required for such a fundamental function.
>>>
>>> I have developed a number of methods that can help meet the ideas in
>>> your other points, The key is however having defined some template tiddlers
>>> that are used to create different kinds of tiddlers. Such templates can
>>> have what ever fields and values you want and one trick is to also include
>>> fields for example with an underscore name eg: _tags value" "tagname1
>>> tagname2", underscore fields are used to populate the no underscore field
>>> of the same name eg: tags value" "tagname1 tagname2" when creating the new
>>> tiddler from the template.
>>>
>>> Fields can only contain lowercase letters, digits and the characters
>>> underscore (_), hyphen (-) and period (.) this this are the three
>>> punctuation prefixes available.
>>> So I suggest;
>>>
>>> - _fieldname results a in fieldname being created with the value in
>>> _fieldname used (if any).
>>> - One special case would be _source-template which is recorded in
>>> the new tiddler
>>> - another _object-name eg "task" when the template is used to
>>> create a task
>>> - .fieldname If the current tiddler has fieldname use the "current
>>> tiddlers fieldname" to set the value "a context field"
>>> - -fieldname could potentially use a macro or transclusion of a
>>> similar name as fieldname to populate the new field.
>>> - All other fields are cloned into the new tiddler.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 11 November 2020 00:19:54 UTC+11, David Gifford wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I decided to delete and rewrite my post since it was somewhat
>>>> incomprehensible:
>>>>
>>>> I have an idea that if implemented in TiddlyWiki, would solve si's
>>>> problem, and would also solve a problem of my own: my problem is that
>>>> sometimes I want any tiddler generated by creating a wikilink then
>>>> clicking
>>>> on the link, to have certain fields and data.
>>>>
>>>> My idea is this:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Have a separate tab in the control panel with the "Title for new
>>>> tiddlers" and "Tags for new tiddlers"from the basics tab, but with a new
>>>> element: "Fields for new tiddlers", which could look just like it does at
>>>> the bottom of edit mode in all tiddlers. That way, si could set the fields
>>>> (and add text to them if desired) so that when he pastes the text, the
>>>> tiddler generated would have the fields and data added. Let's call this
>>>> tab
>>>> $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/NewTiddlerConfig
>>>>
>>>> 2. The other aspect of my idea is that
>>>> $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/NewTiddlerConfig could be tagged, say,
>>>> $:/tags/NewTiddlerConfig. And only the tiddler that has this tag will
>>>> modify the creation of new tiddlers. So users could clone this tiddler and
>>>> have a number of custom "new tiddler config" tabs - one for images, one
>>>> for
>>>> reading notes, one for contacts, etc, and use a switcher to tag the one
>>>> they want to work on at a given time.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Why is this helpful? Currently the only way to create tiddlers with
>>>> preset fields is to create a custom new tiddler button for the sidebar.
>>>> There are drawbacks:
>>>> a) You have to choose an icon to make it distinct from the others.
>>>> b) If none of the standard icons fit, you need to create an icon and
>>>> add it to a tiddler.
>>>> c) Sometimes you want to create tiddlers in other ways: using newhere,
>>>> or creating a link and clicking on it, but the fields and data aren't
>>>> added
>>>> to the tiddler by those methods.
>>>>
>>>> 4. What would this look like for the end user process? An example:
>>>>
>>>> Say I have already created custom "New tiddler config" tiddlers.
>>>> a) One is for reading notes. It has a bibliographic data field and a
>>>> page number field. I use some sort of switcher to untag the the core "new
>>>> tiddler config" tiddler, and tag this one. I add the bib data for the
>>>> source I am going to read. Then every note I create has that data, and all
>>>> I need to do is add the page number.
>>>> b) Then say I am going to work on adding images. I use the switcher to
>>>> choose the "new tiddler config" tiddler I created for images. The text
>>>> field is [img width="90%" [ ]], the tag is image and maybe there is some
>>>> other field. I create images for a while and just paste the image
>>>> location.
>>>> c) Then I want to add contacts for a while. I use the switcher to
>>>> choose my contact template. I can create my contact tiddler, tags and
>>>> fields included, by typing a link to "Jeremy Ruston" and clicking on it,
>>>> then just fill in the fields.
>>>> d) When I am done, I use the switcher to tag the core new tiddler
>>>> config tiddler so new tiddlers are blank again.
>>>>
>>>> Okay, I really need to get my class ready. Burst of inspiration over. I
>>>> hope this is doable and that what I wrote inspires someone more
>>>> knowledgable than me who could actually design this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 5:08:24 AM UTC-6 si wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jeremy thanks for the response. I was specifically hoping to be
>>>>> able to do it with something like $action-createtiddler so that I could
>>>>> auto-populate the new tiddler with whatever fields and tags I need.
>>>>>
>>>>> My specific use case is that when I'm reading a PDF I usually create a
>>>>> tiddler to represent the book. All my book tiddlers have a button for
>>>>> creating a tiddler to store quotes from the book, tagged with the book +
>>>>> metadata fields. Currently I just copy the text in manually, which is
>>>>> fine,
>>>>> I just wondered if there was a way I could speed up this process and have
>>>>> it all happen with one button press.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 10 November 2020 07:33:51 UTC, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On a device with a keyboard you can click on TiddlyWiki's page
>>>>>> background and then use the keyboard shortcut for "paste". The $:/Import
>>>>>> dialogue should open with the pasted item as a tiddler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeremy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jeremy Ruston
>>>>>> jer...@jermolene.com
>>>>>> https://jermolene.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9 Nov 2020, at 21:17, si <matthew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Say you have copied a paragraph of text and it is stored in your
>>>>>> clipboard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a way to create a button in TiddlyWiki that will create a
>>>>>> new tiddler whose "text" field is populated with whatever was stored in
>>>>>> your clipboard?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not expecting the answer to be yes but I thought I'd ask just in
>>>>>> case. Thanks in advance for your help.
>>>>>>
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