>
> Rather than start altering the layout perhaps you can create a tiddler for
> viewing other tiddlers that contain the text. You can then use fluid story
> fixed sidebar, with the sidebar closed to see a wide tiddler that contains
> your two page layout, you custom background and various icons. Once
> complete it could be redesigned as a new layout if necessary but to me a
> view tiddler is better because then your "reader" could be used in any
> tiddler and wiki.


A mockup is a great idea! I'll get drawing or something...

And a "view tiddler": if it provides me with the  view I am asking for,
then I'd be happy as a clam. Can you edit a tiddler directly though the
view tiddler, or is it just a transclusion?

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 8:40 PM TW Tones <[email protected]> wrote:

> On reviewing your requirements, a little more clarity and perhaps a mock
> up would help.
>
> Rather than start altering the layout perhaps you can create a tiddler for
> viewing other tiddlers that contain the text. You can then use fluid story
> fixed sidebar, with the sidebar closed to see a wide tiddler that contains
> your two page layout, you custom background and various icons. Once
> complete it could be redesigned as a new layout if necessary but to me a
> view tiddler is better because then your "reader" could be used in any
> tiddler and wiki.
>
> Tones
>
> On Sunday, 20 December 2020 at 03:06:00 UTC+11 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> >> There are theme designers that may take up this. But first what are
>> you requiring from this new theme?
>>
>> My  experience historically has been not so great - I think this is the
>> third time? I've done what I can on my own, but I also  gave up on a lot of
>> ideas, as just way outside my expertise.
>>
>> I guess I have two main ideas, both build off of / reflect things that
>> others have asked for or suggested. I thought that maybe supporting
>> someone's time money wise might be appreciated. At any rate, here's what
>> I'm looking for:
>>
>> 1) A new plugin for color tweaking: something where we could pick our
>> colors in TW, and see changes immediately. Would obviously need to include
>> some work to make all the uncommon bits visible (alerts, for example).
>>
>> 2) The new Notebook theme is awesome, but.... made me pine for one of my
>> original thoughts again - the manuscript!
>> * a two-panel layout (like an open book) that can become "single page" as
>> needed depending on browser width
>> * the "book" sits on a table/like background, of course, possibly with
>> some other items visible for aesthetic purposes (inkwell and quill!)
>> * "turny corners" to move to next page / prev page of a tiddler "page"
>> * editing would be a single panel on the page, like normal
>> * There's a bookmark, and I have two ideas here:
>> IDEA 1:  the part of the bookmark showing has the main tool buttons
>> (New/Home/Save, etc.) as well as navigation buttons - previous tiddler aka
>> chapter, maybe last 5 tiddlers. Idea is basically to allow for tiddlers as
>> static "pages" but still have fairly easy navigation (an idea would be to
>> have temporary additional "bookmarks/tags" on the sides of the "book" for
>> quick navigation to other "open"  tiddlers)
>> IDEA 2: put new/save/home buttons on the object on the table (click on
>> the inkwell to create a new page/tiddler, quill to save, etc) and keep the
>> bookmark super simple, possibly with links to "home" pages or fave tiddlers
>> * Clicking on bookmark takes you to "front page" - that has the main tool
>> tabs (Search / Open / Recent / Tools / etc.) and the TOC
>> * Layout on front page with bookmark would be, from right to left (or
>> left to right?), <whole "page"> with TOC, <bookmark> on top layer of right
>> page with buttons as normal at top, and buttons for the various "tabs" in
>> normal layouts, and then the rest of the right page  <exposed> "behind" the
>> bookmark, which would show all the other details - the tools list and
>> buttons, the open tiddlers, and so on.
>>
>> I know I'm going overboard with the aesthetic functionality here, but...
>> I do have reasons, it doesn't hurt to list off all the hopes, no matter
>> what, and I think it would make for an awesome website
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 9:33 PM TW Tones <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> There are theme designers that may take up this. But first what are you
>>> requiring from this new theme?
>>>
>>> In the pre-release there is a way to change layouts if you have more
>>> than one, ie the structure, but otherwise themes usually consist of colour
>>> pallets and css tweaking of existing elements.
>>>
>>> There is a reasonable chance this can be accomplished by the community
>>> helping you.
>>>
>>> Tones
>>> On Saturday, 19 December 2020 at 08:54:20 UTC+11 [email protected]
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would anyone be up for designing a TiddlyWiki theme, that:
>>>> 1) I would pay for your time
>>>> 2) Would be free to the community once done
>>>>
>>>> If _anyone_ is interested, I will share my needs. But historically,
>>>> it's been a big no-go.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Aidan
>>>>
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