Jed,

Unfortunately this version is "silent crashing" on my end, never happened 
before on previous versions, so I suspect it's unlikely user-error. I 
realize you aren't as easily able to debug Windows, so I'll give as much 
detail as I can. Here are the details:

   - I'm using the BobWin.exe file from your link above - so 64-bit Windows
   - I've tried on two different, but similar machines - both HP Laptops 
   Windows 10 64-bit
   - All previous versions of BobWin.exe that I've tried work fine - 
   including the latest release 1.60

What I'm doing:

   - Opening the BobWin.exe normally
   - Going past the initial Windows "this is unsafe" warning - using "run 
   anyways" as I always do
   - Going past the Symantec "this file is unproven" warning - using "allow 
   this file" as I always do
   - Normally then the terminal screen comes up, and then the browser pops 
   open. Now, nothing
   - Looking at the running programs, it looks like Node.js opens, then 
   just closes silently
      - I tried taking a screengrab in case it's useful 
      https://i.imgur.com/APDx6Uq.gifv 
      
Let me know if there's anything else I can provide to help - thanks for 
your efforts as always!
On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 6:04:53 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:

> Hi Jed,
>
> I would be delighted to take part in the tests.
> A user on the French forum is also always interested in Bob and his 
> multi-user character.
> But at the moment it's a bit of an open bar in terms of security I think.
>
> I see you're still around, so it might be a good idea to meet up once 
> again in person (with the barrier gestures!). At least once to share more 
> quickly and save time (or via Google Meet or Skype? Because if you say 
> you're coming by train, it's like me (I live about 30 km away), you live 
> probably further away, so we probably won't be able to meet IRL).
>
> Regards,
> Sylvain
>
> Le mardi 22 décembre 2020 à 09:32:09 UTC+1, [email protected] a écrit :
>
>> Bonjour Sylvain,
>>
>> I am glad someone is using Bob. I am close to having a working demo of 
>> the secure version running but an adorable kitten decided that dancing on 
>> the multiprise for my desktop was a fun idea and after some impressive 
>> sparks now I no longer have a working development machine (the kitten is 
>> fine, it was only my computer that got hurt).
>> So my hope is to put up a demo site when I am able and see if I can get 
>> help getting a new computer is exchange for making sure that the system 
>> works as a reasonable tiddlyspot replacement and has things like 1-click 
>> installers for digital ocean and hopefully wherever else is useful.
>>
>> The problem is that at the moment I only have my laptop to work with and 
>> for the most part my development time is the train to and from Paris each 
>> day.
>> If you can help with testing the install that would be a great help. I 
>> have it working fine but I haven't finished the interface for managing 
>> accounts and wiki permissions yet.
>> I am the only one who has been testing so I am certain there are be bugs 
>> I haven't found.
>>
>> I will make a post with more details about the secure server in a few 
>> minutes. If you want to try and install send me a message with details 
>> about where your hosting is if there is any public information about it I 
>> can start looking at if I can make a 1-click install for the secure server 
>> part.
>>
>> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 8:10:05 PM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Bonjour Jed,
>>>
>>> Glad to see this releases notes !
>>> It's great to see new about secure server version.
>>> I would like to test further, but my skills with the Node.js version are 
>>> lacking, and I may have some constraints with my web host (which proposes 
>>> the installation in 1 click of the Node.js TW version, so there would be a 
>>> way to have some assistance I think if we take the time).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sylvain
>>> Le dimanche 13 décembre 2020 à 19:40:21 UTC+1, [email protected] a 
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> Most of the changes deal with me getting ready for the secure server 
>>>> version as a possible replacement to Tiddlyspot, there will be an 
>>>> announcement and demo later.
>>>>
>>>> There hasn't been as much testing as usual because an adorable kitten 
>>>> managed to fry my development computer and I have only had my laptop and a 
>>>> raspberry pi to test on.
>>>>
>>>> The BobEXE version is available here: 
>>>> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-BobEXE/releases/tag/1.7.0b1
>>>> The plugin is available here: https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
>>>>
>>>> !! Version 1.7.0 Can of soup
>>>>
>>>>    - clean up some code problems
>>>>    - add framework for limiting access to settings and plugins based 
>>>>    on login status (secure server only)
>>>>    - Ensure that the settings are always correctly loaded in some edge 
>>>>    cases
>>>>    - Add RootWiki to the list of wikis that can be duplicated in the UI
>>>>    - The disableBrowserAlerts setting now takes input 
>>>>    values yes and no instead of true and false
>>>>    - Added the option to serve single file wikis without Bob to people 
>>>>    who aren't logged in (secure server only)
>>>>    - Modify how settings are loaded to work better with the external 
>>>>    server
>>>>    - Many changes to the internals to work with the external server 
>>>>    better, most don't affect functionality
>>>>    - improve the http api
>>>>    ** See the http api documentation for more
>>>>
>>>> !! Version 1.6.2r2 Une Vie Typique
>>>>
>>>>    - Fixed a regression that would prevent websocket connections if 
>>>>    the wiki had a space in its name.
>>>>    - Add a /api/status http route that returns settings and other wiki 
>>>>    information
>>>>    - Switched to using the /api/status route to get wiki settings 
>>>>    instead of the setLoggedIn websocket message to make behaviour more 
>>>>    predictable and prevent some race conditions
>>>>    - Lots of refactoring and cleanup on the wiki management functions 
>>>>    in the back-end
>>>>    - You no longer need to click a button to see the available 
>>>>    plugins/themes/editions/languages on the server. If any new ones are 
>>>> added 
>>>>    while you have a wiki open you need to either refresh the page (the 
>>>> reload 
>>>>    button on your browser, nothing special) or refresh the settings.
>>>>    - Big update to the http api routes
>>>>    - Documented the http api
>>>>    - Fix a crash from a variable scope problem
>>>>    - Fix a problem with disabling the browser automatically opening
>>>>
>>>> !! Version 1.6.1 Scream in your heart
>>>>
>>>>    - Changed how saveTiddler messages are handled that reduce the 
>>>>    number of redundant messages. This prevents some undesired behaviour 
>>>> and in 
>>>>    some extreme cases infinite saving loops.
>>>>    ** This makes some significant speed improvements, everything but 
>>>>    saving many tiddlers in the browser is now close to the speed it was 
>>>> before 
>>>>    switching to the internal syncer
>>>>    - Fixed some formatting to fit better with tiddlywiki coding styles
>>>>    - Fixed the basepath for the file server
>>>>    - Simplified the file system monitor in a way that should prevent 
>>>>    race conditions when used with external syncing services like git or 
>>>> dropbox
>>>>    ** Thanks @lineOneTwo <https://github.com/lineOneTwo>
>>>>    - Fixed the name enableBobSaver so that the GUI can disable the 
>>>>    saver correctly
>>>>    - Updates to setting the modified flag for a wiki on the server to 
>>>>    be more consistent
>>>>    - Update action-downloadwiki documentation to show you can set 
>>>>    which core to use and set the default download name
>>>>    - Improved the handling of uploaded files
>>>>    - Add proper handling so expired login tokens aren't sent when they 
>>>>    shouldn't be
>>>>    - Create a single shared method for getting login tokens
>>>>
>>>>

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