This should be fixed in the next release, I am currently doing what testing 
I can on it.

On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 4:45:55 AM UTC+1 Stobot wrote:

> Good suggestion Tony, when running from the command line in a totally 
> empty folder right off of c:\BOB it returns this:
>
> C:\BOB>bobwin
> NodeSettings - Parsed raw settings.
> Error executing boot module $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/NodeBasicHandlers.js: {}
>
> $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/NodeBasicHandlers.js:21
>   $tw.Bob.Shared = require('$:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/SharedFunctions.js');
>                  ^
>
> TypeError: Cannot set property 'Shared' of undefined
>     at $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/NodeBasicHandlers.js:21:18
>     at $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/NodeBasicHandlers.js:251:3
>     at Script.runInContext (vm.js:137:20)
>     at Script.runInNewContext (vm.js:143:17)
>     at Object.runInNewContext (vm.js:309:38)
>     at Object.$tw.utils.evalSandboxed 
> (C:\BOB\TiddlyWiki5\boot\boot.js:530:5)
>     at Object.$tw.modules.execute (C:\BOB\TiddlyWiki5\boot\boot.js:806:15)
>     at C:\BOB\TiddlyWiki5\boot\boot.js:846:30
>     at Object.$tw.utils.each (C:\BOB\TiddlyWiki5\boot\boot.js:135:12)
>     at Object.$tw.modules.forEachModuleOfType 
> (C:\BOB\TiddlyWiki5\boot\boot.js:845:12)
>
> On Sunday, December 27, 2020 at 10:36:09 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Stobot,
>>
>> I use windows 10, in the past I launched bobwin from a command prompt 
>> such that when it terminates it may provide a message at the prompt.
>>
>> Perhaps try it on an empty folder in case it is responding to something 
>> in an existing wiki.
>>
>> I may get the opportunity to see if I can replicate this later today.
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Monday, 28 December 2020 at 10:45:50 UTC+11 Stobot wrote:
>>
>>> Jed,
>>>
>>> Unfortunately this version is "silent crashing" on my end, never 
>>> happened before on previous versions, so I suspect it's unlikely 
>>> user-error. I realize you aren't as easily able to debug Windows, so I'll 
>>> give as much detail as I can. Here are the details:
>>>
>>>    - I'm using the BobWin.exe file from your link above - so 64-bit 
>>>    Windows
>>>    - I've tried on two different, but similar machines - both HP 
>>>    Laptops Windows 10 64-bit
>>>    - All previous versions of BobWin.exe that I've tried work fine - 
>>>    including the latest release 1.60
>>>
>>> What I'm doing:
>>>
>>>    - Opening the BobWin.exe normally
>>>    - Going past the initial Windows "this is unsafe" warning - using 
>>>    "run anyways" as I always do
>>>    - Going past the Symantec "this file is unproven" warning - using 
>>>    "allow this file" as I always do
>>>    - Normally then the terminal screen comes up, and then the browser 
>>>    pops open. Now, nothing
>>>    - Looking at the running programs, it looks like Node.js opens, then 
>>>    just closes silently
>>>       - I tried taking a screengrab in case it's useful 
>>>       https://i.imgur.com/APDx6Uq.gifv 
>>>       
>>> Let me know if there's anything else I can provide to help - thanks for 
>>> your efforts as always!
>>> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 6:04:53 AM UTC-5 [email protected] 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jed,
>>>>
>>>> I would be delighted to take part in the tests.
>>>> A user on the French forum is also always interested in Bob and his 
>>>> multi-user character.
>>>> But at the moment it's a bit of an open bar in terms of security I 
>>>> think.
>>>>
>>>> I see you're still around, so it might be a good idea to meet up once 
>>>> again in person (with the barrier gestures!). At least once to share more 
>>>> quickly and save time (or via Google Meet or Skype? Because if you say 
>>>> you're coming by train, it's like me (I live about 30 km away), you live 
>>>> probably further away, so we probably won't be able to meet IRL).
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sylvain
>>>>
>>>> Le mardi 22 décembre 2020 à 09:32:09 UTC+1, [email protected] a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Bonjour Sylvain,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am glad someone is using Bob. I am close to having a working demo of 
>>>>> the secure version running but an adorable kitten decided that dancing on 
>>>>> the multiprise for my desktop was a fun idea and after some impressive 
>>>>> sparks now I no longer have a working development machine (the kitten is 
>>>>> fine, it was only my computer that got hurt).
>>>>> So my hope is to put up a demo site when I am able and see if I can 
>>>>> get help getting a new computer is exchange for making sure that the 
>>>>> system 
>>>>> works as a reasonable tiddlyspot replacement and has things like 1-click 
>>>>> installers for digital ocean and hopefully wherever else is useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that at the moment I only have my laptop to work with 
>>>>> and for the most part my development time is the train to and from Paris 
>>>>> each day.
>>>>> If you can help with testing the install that would be a great help. I 
>>>>> have it working fine but I haven't finished the interface for managing 
>>>>> accounts and wiki permissions yet.
>>>>> I am the only one who has been testing so I am certain there are be 
>>>>> bugs I haven't found.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will make a post with more details about the secure server in a few 
>>>>> minutes. If you want to try and install send me a message with details 
>>>>> about where your hosting is if there is any public information about it I 
>>>>> can start looking at if I can make a 1-click install for the secure 
>>>>> server 
>>>>> part.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 8:10:05 PM UTC+1 [email protected] 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bonjour Jed,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad to see this releases notes !
>>>>>> It's great to see new about secure server version.
>>>>>> I would like to test further, but my skills with the Node.js version 
>>>>>> are lacking, and I may have some constraints with my web host (which 
>>>>>> proposes the installation in 1 click of the Node.js TW version, so there 
>>>>>> would be a way to have some assistance I think if we take the time).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Sylvain
>>>>>> Le dimanche 13 décembre 2020 à 19:40:21 UTC+1, [email protected] a 
>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most of the changes deal with me getting ready for the secure server 
>>>>>>> version as a possible replacement to Tiddlyspot, there will be an 
>>>>>>> announcement and demo later.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There hasn't been as much testing as usual because an adorable 
>>>>>>> kitten managed to fry my development computer and I have only had my 
>>>>>>> laptop 
>>>>>>> and a raspberry pi to test on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The BobEXE version is available here: 
>>>>>>> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-BobEXE/releases/tag/1.7.0b1
>>>>>>> The plugin is available here: https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> !! Version 1.7.0 Can of soup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - clean up some code problems
>>>>>>>    - add framework for limiting access to settings and plugins 
>>>>>>>    based on login status (secure server only)
>>>>>>>    - Ensure that the settings are always correctly loaded in some 
>>>>>>>    edge cases
>>>>>>>    - Add RootWiki to the list of wikis that can be duplicated in 
>>>>>>>    the UI
>>>>>>>    - The disableBrowserAlerts setting now takes input 
>>>>>>>    values yes and no instead of true and false
>>>>>>>    - Added the option to serve single file wikis without Bob to 
>>>>>>>    people who aren't logged in (secure server only)
>>>>>>>    - Modify how settings are loaded to work better with the 
>>>>>>>    external server
>>>>>>>    - Many changes to the internals to work with the external server 
>>>>>>>    better, most don't affect functionality
>>>>>>>    - improve the http api
>>>>>>>    ** See the http api documentation for more
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> !! Version 1.6.2r2 Une Vie Typique
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - Fixed a regression that would prevent websocket connections if 
>>>>>>>    the wiki had a space in its name.
>>>>>>>    - Add a /api/status http route that returns settings and other 
>>>>>>>    wiki information
>>>>>>>    - Switched to using the /api/status route to get wiki settings 
>>>>>>>    instead of the setLoggedIn websocket message to make behaviour more 
>>>>>>>    predictable and prevent some race conditions
>>>>>>>    - Lots of refactoring and cleanup on the wiki management 
>>>>>>>    functions in the back-end
>>>>>>>    - You no longer need to click a button to see the available 
>>>>>>>    plugins/themes/editions/languages on the server. If any new ones are 
>>>>>>> added 
>>>>>>>    while you have a wiki open you need to either refresh the page (the 
>>>>>>> reload 
>>>>>>>    button on your browser, nothing special) or refresh the settings.
>>>>>>>    - Big update to the http api routes
>>>>>>>    - Documented the http api
>>>>>>>    - Fix a crash from a variable scope problem
>>>>>>>    - Fix a problem with disabling the browser automatically opening
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> !! Version 1.6.1 Scream in your heart
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - Changed how saveTiddler messages are handled that reduce the 
>>>>>>>    number of redundant messages. This prevents some undesired behaviour 
>>>>>>> and in 
>>>>>>>    some extreme cases infinite saving loops.
>>>>>>>    ** This makes some significant speed improvements, everything 
>>>>>>>    but saving many tiddlers in the browser is now close to the speed it 
>>>>>>> was 
>>>>>>>    before switching to the internal syncer
>>>>>>>    - Fixed some formatting to fit better with tiddlywiki coding 
>>>>>>>    styles
>>>>>>>    - Fixed the basepath for the file server
>>>>>>>    - Simplified the file system monitor in a way that should 
>>>>>>>    prevent race conditions when used with external syncing services 
>>>>>>> like git 
>>>>>>>    or dropbox
>>>>>>>    ** Thanks @lineOneTwo <https://github.com/lineOneTwo>
>>>>>>>    - Fixed the name enableBobSaver so that the GUI can disable the 
>>>>>>>    saver correctly
>>>>>>>    - Updates to setting the modified flag for a wiki on the server 
>>>>>>>    to be more consistent
>>>>>>>    - Update action-downloadwiki documentation to show you can set 
>>>>>>>    which core to use and set the default download name
>>>>>>>    - Improved the handling of uploaded files
>>>>>>>    - Add proper handling so expired login tokens aren't sent when 
>>>>>>>    they shouldn't be
>>>>>>>    - Create a single shared method for getting login tokens
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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