I just filled the 12 fields and after adding the Stroll tiddlers the plugin 
was created by Tinka but my wiki seems to be destroyed in its function. I 
don't know if the Tinka plugin may gathered it and deleted it. I am in safe 
mode right now but can't even switch this off anymore.

On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 4:05:36 PM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi HP can you explain? What did you try? And what do you mean by "it was 
> destroyed" yet "it worked"?
>
> On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 5:56:38 AM UTC-6 HP wrote:
>
>> @David and @odin.. , I unfortunately tried it in my TW5 and it was 
>> destroy by my wrong selection of the tiddlers but it worked fmpov. 
>>
>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 8:26:54 PM UTC+1 HP wrote:
>>
>>> David, this is the Tinka plugin in action. I am not sure if you did 
>>> already took a look into it:
>>> [image: temp.png]
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 7:48:56 PM UTC+1 HP wrote:
>>>
>>>> David, it worked! Thanks! Now I don't need to uninstall it anymore.. <3
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 5:39:05 PM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi HP
>>>>>
>>>>> I forgot to let you know about my new instructions. See 
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/YeiImlym0j8 Regardless of 
>>>>> what you have done, see that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, $:/core/ui/EditTemplate is a shadow tiddler. But since in Stroll 
>>>>> I had deleted the tag that normally is on that tiddler, when you deleted 
>>>>> that tiddler it restored the tag. I didn't mean that the tiddler would 
>>>>> cease to exist. Sorry for the confusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for Tinka...that is for people much more knowledgeable than I.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:11:30 AM UTC-6 HP wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>> I tried to delete $:/core/ui/EditTemplate but it is a core TW5 shadow 
>>>>>> tiddler and will be immediately restored. I opened it and deleted it 
>>>>>> several times. The hint from @odin about Tinka for creating plugins 
>>>>>> sounds 
>>>>>> promising to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 1:09:40 PM UTC+1 David Gifford 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi HP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I figured out the problem with the delete and close buttons. Just 
>>>>>>> delete $:/config/ui/EditTemplate 
>>>>>>> <https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html#%24%3A%2Fconfig%2Fui%2FEditTemplate>.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> and you should be good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Explanation: I had a separate edit template for Stroll, so that 
>>>>>>> every time you edit a tiddler and close it, missing tiddlers are 
>>>>>>> created. 
>>>>>>> This was to imitate Roam Research functionality and save a step of 
>>>>>>> manually 
>>>>>>> creating every tiddler. I think to avoid users' confusion and work for 
>>>>>>> me 
>>>>>>> every time TiddlyWiki gets upgraded, I will remove that functionality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will update the Stroll tutorial to remove references to that 
>>>>>>> functionality, and I will update Stroll and Stroll's empty.html to 
>>>>>>> 5.1.23 
>>>>>>> and without the offending tiddlers in a few moments. But for you, all 
>>>>>>> you 
>>>>>>> need to do at the moment is delete that config tiddler, and it will 
>>>>>>> return 
>>>>>>> to its default state, which points to $:/core/ui/EditTemplate instead 
>>>>>>> of my 
>>>>>>> custom edittemplate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is still a problem with the Close others and Fold others not 
>>>>>>> working in the more menu. I suspect those are problems with the Stories 
>>>>>>> plugin by Saq. I will poke around to see if I can find the problem, but 
>>>>>>> most likely Saq will know how to fix that. Everything else seems to be 
>>>>>>> working okay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 7:49:45 PM UTC-6 HP wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Iirc there was a tutorial in your great list about "how to create a 
>>>>>>>> TW plugin". I will look for it and read a bit..maybe I can come up 
>>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>>> something useful for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 2:17:30 AM UTC+1 David Gifford 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi HP
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I will review this in the morning (I am in Mexico City) and will 
>>>>>>>>> try to update Stroll tomorrow and publish updating instructions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have repeatedly asked for someone to put out Stroll as a plugin, 
>>>>>>>>> since I don't know how to do that. A couple people said they would, 
>>>>>>>>> but 
>>>>>>>>> nothing came of it. But I will address the updating issues tomorrow. 
>>>>>>>>> Sorry 
>>>>>>>>> for the hassles!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 5:20:22 PM UTC-6 HP wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can't neither use the close or delete button for a new tiddler 
>>>>>>>>>> or use the new tiddler drop down menu after installing Stroll. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It isn't a plugin, so how do I uninstall it? I got a 
>>>>>>>>>> comprehensive list of entries via my advanced search within System 
>>>>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>>>>> "stroll". i can't decide what of it i can or must remove.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe there is a more generic approach to this kind of problem 
>>>>>>>>>> when no plugins are involved.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

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