Now that i've got some experience w/ the spaced-repetition dynamic of the Takeaway feature (since only night before last, i can see how it's helping my recall), i have to agree with Soren: a read-only version of this book is just not the same thing -not even close. That being said: until i got the editable version working in Quine (as previously described), i still got a lot out of it in that mode. But if i had a MacBook Air, @stan, i'd be sorely tempted to take it to bed, because i *so* hate typing on glass, and yet this book really inspires you to get weave some wiki.
Speaking of which, @Soren, i have to ask: When the inevitable revision(s) to this book come out, how do we upgrade without losing our edits? You mentioned something about this in another thread <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/sDNCk1tDjlM/m/mV4BH1lCAgAJ>, but i'm still not clear from a user perspective how this is supposed to work. Would appreciate if you could explain. /walt On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 4:59:11 PM UTC Soren Bjornstad wrote: > Stan, I've seen the same problem and unfortunately have not found a > solution (my phone is new enough, I just haven't downloaded Quine). It's > kind of bizarre that Apple doesn't have a way to open an HTML file on your > phone (except in preview, which doesn't work since it doesn't have JS), > even though you have both a browser and a file storage area. > > In any case, you're probably going to want to be able to save changes to > the book to track your progress on the takeaways, so I'm not sure direct > access through Firefox would work out well for this use case anyway. > > > On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 7:48:14 AM UTC-6 [email protected] > wrote: > >> Is there some way to read the book on an old iPad? I have an *iPad mini >> 4, iOS 12.5*, so Quine 2 is not an option. I tried the simplistic >> approach of downloading the book using Firefox, but for the life of me, >> could not figure out how to load it to read the book. I also tried Safari, >> Firefox Focus, Dolphin (in desperation!) and finally went to sleep. A >> tablet version sans Quine 2 would be attractive - I don't want to take my >> Chromebook or one of my MacBook Airs to bed. >> >> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 4:39:24 AM UTC-5 ludwa6 wrote: >> >>> @Soren : Amazing piece of work, mate! I just downloaded it last night >>> on my iPad, fully expecting to nod-off in <15min (a nice fat eBook on some >>> tech topic is my favourite form of sleeping pill :-)... But then the darn >>> thing kept me going *way* into the wee-hours, until i must either get up >>> and get working in TiddlyDesktop (had some trouble saving a local copy on >>> iPad via Quine2 [note1]), or else power-down somehow (which i finally >>> did... But it wasn't easy!). >>> >>> So i think it's fair to say -at least for those like me that already >>> quite into TiddlyWiki, but also with serious gaps in know-how, begging to >>> be filled- this book is a great resource, even in current form. To be >>> clear: this is no "5hi++y first draft" (as authors are advised these days >>> to call their first Request For Comments); it's a very broad and deep >>> treatment of the subject, organised by a guy who really knows the tool and >>> how to use it to max advantage. Moreover: Soren brings some progressive >>> learning theory to the table, in the form of this "Takeways" feature (i.e. >>> granular Q&A exercises in context) that really works. >>> >>> Check it out! >>> >>> /walt >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 12:59:27 PM UTC PMario wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> -as in my first post >>>> My github profile <https://github.com/pmario>contains an e-mail link >>>> -m >>>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 3:55:29 AM UTC+1 Soren Bjornstad wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have a draft just about ready for review, but it looks like the >>>>> group as configured doesn't allow me to see the contact information of >>>>> anyone who posted. Could everyone who was interested in participating >>>>> please take 30 seconds to fill out this Google form with your email >>>>> address? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSetcYknEP3bbJN38u1jpp2QJIHQUyhYArdc-ZQk7aSrQuqskA/viewform?usp=sf_link >>>>> >>>>> I am looking at having this out to you all by the end of the week and >>>>> would love to have your feedback gathered in by early to mid-March. I >>>>> will >>>>> email you with further details once you have filled out the form. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 7:10:44 PM UTC-6 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm an absolute beginner. I'd love to help proofread it if you still >>>>>> need volunteers >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 7:34:13 PM UTC-4 Soren Bjornstad >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As the end of the year approaches and I start planning personal >>>>>>> goals for next year, I thought I'd share an early update on a project >>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>> really excited about and hope will be a boon for the TiddlyWiki >>>>>>> community: >>>>>>> a TiddlyWiki textbook (written in TiddlyWiki, of course). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Right now we have (mostly) good technical documentation for advanced >>>>>>> users, a thriving Google group, and plenty of introductions to >>>>>>> TiddlyWiki, >>>>>>> but nothing that bridges the gap by helping new users who are serious >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> learning the ins and outs of TiddlyWiki to build a complete >>>>>>> understanding >>>>>>> of TiddlyWiki concepts. That's what I'm hoping to fix. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One of the other things I'm excited about is my included prototype >>>>>>> of a mnemonic medium >>>>>>> <https://notes.andymatuschak.org/z4rRX3qwSSJRsEkdXKwH2shamgHNeRthrMLiF> >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> TiddlyWiki built on top of my TiddlyRemember plugin. This allows simple >>>>>>> prompts to be embedded in the text, then reviewed at regular intervals >>>>>>> controlled by a spaced-repetition algorithm, either with a simple >>>>>>> native-TiddlyWiki reviewer or in Anki <https://apps.ankiweb.net/> via >>>>>>> TiddlyRemember. With this medium, learning and retaining large amounts >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> new terminology and syntax is much easier. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: Screenshot from 2020-12-30 17-08-30.png] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've been working on this off and on for a few months and am hoping >>>>>>> that within the next month or two, I'll have a solid draft. At that >>>>>>> point I >>>>>>> would like to send this out to a handful of people for an initial, >>>>>>> rigorous >>>>>>> round of private review and feedback. I would like to involve several >>>>>>> expert users and several beginners (I'd love to see 2-3 in each >>>>>>> category). >>>>>>> Here's what I'd hope to hear from these reviewers: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Experts: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - See any outright errors? I'm sure I made a few. >>>>>>> - Did I miss any concepts or features that you use all the time >>>>>>> or think are essential? >>>>>>> - For the resources at the end: What major resources or plugins >>>>>>> would be worth including that I don't know about or haven't included? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Beginners: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Did everything I wrote make sense? >>>>>>> - How well did the mnemonic medium work? Were the prompts >>>>>>> effective? Did you understand how to use it? >>>>>>> - Did your TiddlyWiki skills improve? >>>>>>> - Were the exercises too hard? Too easy? Lacking enough >>>>>>> information? >>>>>>> - Roughly how long did it take to work through the book? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would be looking for a commitment to read through the whole book, >>>>>>> ideally do most of the exercises, and offer substantive feedback. The >>>>>>> book >>>>>>> is currently about 70,000 words and includes plenty of exercises, so >>>>>>> although I have no data on how long it will take to work through the >>>>>>> book >>>>>>> at this point, I can't imagine it would be a one-evening task. As >>>>>>> compensation, I can offer early access to the book, your name in the >>>>>>> acknowledgements, a $25 Amazon gift card (maybe more if there are fewer >>>>>>> reviewers or I can cram it into my budget), and a huge thank-you to >>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>> who's willing to help out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you're interested in being involved when the time comes, please >>>>>>> let me know here or by emailing contact at sorenbjornstad.com. If >>>>>>> your ability to help out depends on the timeline, please let me know >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> I'll see what I can do. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/b61d7b7e-4b37-41de-9a02-ee5bcaf4b215n%40googlegroups.com.
