Apologies for the typos, I'm on my phone this evening.
On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 4:56:37 PM UTC+2 Saq Imtiaz wrote: > @Mike if you can post a file with an example of a node structure you want > to clone, I can help you figure a solution for it. > > For pasting in lists for other places, try saving the node with alt+enter. > By default it splits on \n\n though that is configurable in the settings. > This works for copying and pasting from a webpage in a web browser, though > it doesn't respect hierarchy so is suitable for flat lists only. > I have no idea about Word and it's I'll, haven't used them in about ten > years. > > I posted a proof of concept a while back for using Streams as an editor > for lists in wikitext. There might be ideas useful to you in there as well. > > On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 4:43:21 PM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote: > >> Hi Saq, >> >> I checked out the new get-stream-root and it seems to deal with a missing >> parent tiddler correctly now. I am fine with installing relink ... it is a >> great plugin on its own and I'm not sure why I don't have in installed in >> all my tiddlywikis. >> >> The specific use cases that I have for cloning parent nodes are Daily >> logs, Action item logs and Agendas. But thinking more about it, it almost >> seems like those need something like sub-streams where you could have a >> common linked stream structure with tiddler-specific sub-streams. I don't >> think the complexity is worth the gain. I think just a clone-stream button >> that will copy the existing structure to a new tiddler would be sufficient. >> That is something I could likely hack together given enough time ... >> dealing with title lists is not my forté but maybe I can reuse some of the >> results of my previous struggles. >> >> The other automation that I want to figure out is how to best import >> unordered lists via copy and paste from other sources into streams as I am >> always bringing in lists from other places. Copying bulleted lists from >> LibreOffice and MSOffice products seems to copy the bullet characters so >> those could likely be cues to break a part the list in the proper way. I am >> not sure what copying a list from a webpage would do ... maybe they come >> with the <ul/li> tags. >> >> - >> >> Item one >> - >> >> item two >> - >> >> sub-item of two >> - >> >> sub-sub-item of two >> - >> >> item three >> >> Copying from LibreOffice Writer gives the above and I think that matches >> what Word and Outlook give. I have no idea how to trigger that parsing >> action on pasting the text but maybe a keyboard shortcut or bullet dropdown >> option is doable. >> >> /Mike >> >> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 6:17:40 PM UTC-3 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> Relink is indeed a necessary dependency for Streams to handle renaming >>> of tiddlers. I wish there was a way to make it mandatory to have installed, >>> if not installed automatically with Streams. >>> >>> The get-stream-root[] filter is completely broken. Thank you for making >>> me realize that. I wrote that in about 5 minutes at the end of a long day >>> before posting this version.. I really shouldn't have. I am surprised it >>> works at all! So as to not make the same mistake twice, I'll wait until >>> tomorrow to push a new version. >>> >>> One thought, what makes more sense: >>> >>> [[mytiddler]get-stream-root[]] or [get-stream-root[mytiddler]] ? >>> Note that with the suffix includeall, you can get all the intermediate >>> tiddlers as well, starting with the root and ending with the tiddler you >>> started at.. e.g.: [[mytiddler]get-stream-root:includeall[]] >>> >>> This form makes me wonder if [get-stream-root[mytiddler]] is the way to >>> go, so that the filter can only ever have one input title. >>> >>> Regarding cloning a root tiddler, it will break some of the keyboard and >>> drag and drop behaviour as well. If the desire is to be able to create a >>> node structure easily for things you do frequently, the code and approach I >>> posted for Arun above is probably the way to go rather than cloning >>> tiddlers. If I am misunderstanding the use case, please do elaborate. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Saq >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 4:08:47 PM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you for your hard work, Saq. I am getting a lot of use out of >>>> streams. >>>> >>>> I played around with get-steam-root on your site. As I understand it, >>>> the use of the relink plugin is recommended/necessary for doing >>>> stream-root >>>> tiddler renames and having everything work since the built-in rename >>>> doesn't seem to keep all the connections. Is that the case? The main >>>> functionality of streams works through a standard rename (with the >>>> renaming >>>> of all tags and list fields) but get-stream-root breaks because the >>>> "parent" fields don't get updated and returns the input node rather than >>>> the last valid parent found. For instance, given this example stream, >>>> >>>> Parent >>>> |node >>>> ||subnode >>>> |||sub-sub-node >>>> >>>> [[sub-sub-node]get-stream-root[]] will return "sub-sub-node" if >>>> "Parent" doesn't exist (because of deletion or rename). I would have >>>> expected it to go as far as it could and return "node" but maybe just >>>> returning itself is more useful from a diagnostic point of view. >>>> >>>> I'm also playing around with the consequences and handling of cloning >>>> the stream-root to reuse streams for agendas/daily logs. get-stream-root >>>> doesn't detect that extra root (likely outside the scope of your intent) >>>> but there are other ways to detect if something isn't the original root >>>> ... >>>> I just need to figure out the new conditional/comparison filters to >>>> compare >>>> <currentTiddler> with <stream-list>field:parent. >>>> >>>> /Mike >>>> On Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 12:59:55 PM UTC-3 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Apologies for the delay with getting Streams 0.2 released, the last >>>>> few months have been hectic. >>>>> >>>>> I've found some time to resolve some of the outstanding issues and >>>>> hope to get a new stable release of 0.2 out next week. >>>>> >>>>> Any testing on this new interim version would be appreciated, just to >>>>> help ensure that I haven't accidentally broken anything: >>>>> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/temp/streams-0.21-preview.html >>>>> >>>>> *Changes since the last version posted:* >>>>> >>>>> - Improved detection and error handling for whether codemirror is >>>>> available >>>>> - Removed the indent/unindent swipe behaviour in favour of >>>>> triggering the context menu >>>>> - Added a plugin priority field so other plugins can >>>>> override/customize Streams tiddlers. Hopefully this means people will >>>>> stop >>>>> distributing modified version of Streams which are a real headache in >>>>> terms >>>>> of providing support. >>>>> - Tweaked the CSS for the settings UI to use color palette entries >>>>> where possible >>>>> - Removed the option to double click to exit editing >>>>> - Introduced the filters get-stream-root and get-stream-nodes to >>>>> make it easier to work with Streams tiddlers. >>>>> >>>>> *For anyone including Streams in editions or otherwise distributing >>>>> the plugin:* >>>>> >>>>> - Please do not distribute modified versions of the plugin as this >>>>> leads to my receiving support requests that are impossible to >>>>> troubleshoot >>>>> or manage. >>>>> - If you need to customize the plugin, first look at the >>>>> documentation to see if there is already a facility for extending or >>>>> tweaking the plugin that you can use. If in doubt, ask or request a >>>>> hook. >>>>> - Otherwise, instead of modifying Streams please distribute >>>>> Streams with your own plugin that overrides select tiddlers in Streams >>>>> and >>>>> implements the customization that you need. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Saq >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/17da79da-edf8-40fd-8698-af6cec1795dfn%40googlegroups.com.
