Suggest updating Relink to the latest version if you have not already done so.
On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:33:33 AM UTC+2 ludwa6 wrote: > OK Charlie: can't say as i understand much of this, but the fact that > you've been able to replicate that JavaScript error - saving to your local > downloaded instance of mine (as you lack edit perms on the hosted instance) > i presume- leads me to believe that it's not a Tiddlyhost thing, but rather > something else. Does this mean that Relink plugin doesn't like the fact of > this new UID field, i wonder? If so, that's a real problem, because Relink > is for me an essential part of this mix. > > I see it like this: one of TW's superpowers is the ability to create AND > modify content (including tiddler titles: a vital content element) so > dynamically. Problem is that the title field is in effect the primary key > of these tiddler entities, so if you change that, you break a whole lot of > links in a typically "intertwingled" wiki. Relink plugin provides a fine > solution to this problem internally... But as far as links-in from the > ouside world are concerned, they must remain unchanged from the time that > you publish them in perpetuity; this is precisely the ProblemOfLinkRot that > drives my interest in using some other field that would survive a title > change (or any change in other content) as the UID for published Permalinks. > > So: gosh, this is vexing. Your solution ticks a lot of boxes, Charlie: > nice compact URL, smartly integrated in UI (your decision about nesting the > control in such a way that is reasonably accessible to editors while > obscuring it from the superficial view of more casual wiki-browsers strikes > me as wise)... And the fact that it doesn't involve any modification of > Core elements means it won't interfere w/ TW's nice easy upgrade mechanics, > or complicate the lives of busy Core devs who would have to work around > that somehow. > > If we can get it to play nicely with Relink tho, then it's a non-starter, > from my perspective. Would love to hear your thoughts about this. > > /walt > > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 3:25:25 AM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote: > >> I removed all of the UID tiddlers from your TiddlyWiki, and I get a >> consistent javascript error trying to rename the tiddler "PermaLinkCharlie". >> >> The javascript error stops happening after I remove the >> "PermaLinkCharlie" reference from the text of your >> "SolutionToProblemOfLinkRot" tiddler. >> >> It looks like Relink is giving a javascript error when trying to rename a >> tiddler (let's call it Tiddler A) that has a CamelCase title WHEN there are >> any other tiddlers that have Tiddler A's CamelCase title in any field that >> Relink scans. >> >> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:10:40 PM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote: >> >>> You're a wizard, Charlie! Problem is, these magic spells invoked in an >>> unforseen context can yield unexpected results. >>> >>> At least the first step -getting a PermaLink to a newly created tiddler- >>> worked fine: see https://meta.tiddlyhost.com/#:[uid[3]] >>> (NB: that one is #3, because tiddlers 1 & 2 got flubbed, because i >>> forgot that Tiddlyhost needs me to save not just tiddler, but then the >>> whole wiki... And so i ran the script twice on same tiddler, and now both >>> 1&2 pull blanks). >>> >>> But then at step two -changing the title of tiddler- it threw me this >>> error message when i tried to save tiddler: >>> >>> * Internal JavaScript Error: Uncaught TypeError: cannot read property >>> '1' of undefined When relinking 'SolutionToProblemOfLinkRot'* >>> Because the tiddler in step 1 above has a backlink to this other >>> 'SolutionToProblemOfLinkRot' -but i don't know if it's that Tiddlyhost >>> doesn't like the UID attribute, or has a problem with the "Relink" plugin i >>> have installed. >>> >>> Anyway: i will try some other tests tomorrow; just thought to share >>> this one now, while it's fresh. >>> ps: can't wait to see this next video! :-) >>> >>> /walt >>> >>> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 6:14:30 PM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Arg. I should have mentioned. The "ViewToolbar" button to add a UID >>>> to a tiddler is in the "More" button's menu. >>>> >>>> I decided to make it a little bit more difficult to reach, because when >>>> a TiddlyWiki is publicly hosted on the web, we don't want viewers creating >>>> UID's on tiddler's and then grabbing UID permalinks, thinking they can >>>> directly open a TiddlyWiki to that particular tiddler. >>>> >>>> I'll try to remember going over that in next video. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 1:54:46 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote: >>>> >>>>> Okay, for anybody who wants to play, please find the attached JSON, a >>>>> package of 9 small tiddlers ready for importing into your own test >>>>> TiddlyWiki. >>>>> >>>>> After you import the attached JSON tiddler, open it to import the >>>>> individual tidders. >>>>> >>>>> I've made a few changes, and will discuss them in a new video today, >>>>> or tomorrow, or within the next few days. >>>>> >>>>> In the meantime, please give it a spin and let me know what breaks or >>>>> gets broken. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers ! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 12:24:47 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Tidflix ? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 12:22:28 PM UTC-3 David Gifford wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The beginnings of the TiddlyWiki Cinematic Universe >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 8:18:52 PM UTC-5 [email protected] >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What the heck, I ask for forgiveness rather than for permission. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm thinking this may be worth a distinct thread in case it >>>>>>>> generates loads of questions/comments. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> YouTube video based on the conversation in Relink vs Permalinks >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/QOzs3CVtosU> : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki: A Prototype of UID's for stable permalinks >>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/UOFqXoyEU4I> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ae273883-c209-4333-83aa-c0dabb847507n%40googlegroups.com.
