Picking up where this earlier thread 
<https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/vlAZ_K4K63o> left off, i am 
following Saq's advice 
<https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/vlAZ_K4K63o/m/9lO63cZEAQAJ> to 
start another conversation on the more specific question of HOW best to use 
-and perhaps adapt- the Streams plugin, to make TW into a great tool for 
not only "intertwingly" NoteTaking (which it certainly is), but also great 
for agile NoteTaking, as defined in aforementioned thread. 

Having just installed the plugin (Streams 0.2.18) in my TiddlyDesktop 
instance, i am already fairly drunk on the power of having what feels like 
a full-fledged outliner *within* a tiddler, where i can bang out a stream 
of bullet points, promote & demote, indent & outdent, etc... All as fast as 
i can type the keystrokes, or drag&drop on mobile. 

But then: the result is a slew of tiddlers with long numeric IDs that, tho 
nicely presented in the edit window as a clean hierarchal outline, cannot 
be either flattened into a single tiddler, nor exported or even copy/pasted 
into the tiddler body via any built-in affordance.  I've been going the 
copy/paste way so far, but it's a hard road to travel, given any 
significant length and/or complexity to your outline. 

Now: plugin author Saq said essentially 
<https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/vlAZ_K4K63o/m/9lO63cZEAQAJ> that 
the only reason he hasn't built in any such affordance is that he doesn't 
know what users want: a simple concatenation of the stream? a hierarchial 
structure in some form? 

For me, the best (and simplest?) solution would be to convert the stream to 
Markdown: each node being just a line of text preceded by a number of 
asterisks (1->any) to reflect its level in the hierarchy.  This could be 
interpreted & displayed correctly in any tiddler that is formatted 
Markdown; TW has affordances for this -as does Github (.md is default 
format of ReadMe files there) and most web publishing & word processing 
apps you can find these days.  Indeed, Saq indicated 
<https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/vlAZ_K4K63o/m/BF2bQzugAAAJ> that 
a  .md<->.tid converter would be no big deal (for him, at least :-) to 
create; this would enable not only "flattening" of a Stream in such manner, 
but also importing a .md file as presentable tiddler content.  Now THAT 
would be cool, IMHO... But that's just me, so far.

SO this is to ask all of you with any experience of Streams plugin: Can you 
relate to the need i am expressing?  Or have you found a good way "flatten" 
your streams, and integrate your Streams content properly into a TW 
instance?  If so, anything you might care to share in terms of workflow 
and/or code would be most appreciated.

NB: I did learn in the course of that earlier thread about this Streams-to-text 
solution <https://szen.io/stream/> (thanks @Si for the pointer), but Saq 
warned <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/vlAZ_K4K63o/m/yXLAGwBIAQAJ> 
that the plugin (actually a microAddOn/Mod, according to author Jan) is not 
compatible with current version of Streams as it stands, though he believes 
that Jan is working on it.  So i'm holding off on installing that for now, 
but would love to hear any news or user reports about that.

/walt

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