Hi Walt, I don't use streams regularly but from time to time it's convenient for brainstorming and refactoring to get ideas sorted.
I did a heavy test with an early version in August 2020 for 2 days, where I did follow an online conference about DAT (now Hyper). It was possible to follow the live-stream and the chat to keep notes in real time. The wiki can be seen at: http://dat-conf-2020.tiddlyspot.com/ ... BUT it doesn't make sense on it's own. You'll need the Agenda <https://events.dat.foundation/2020/schedule/> and the Videos <https://events.dat.foundation/2020/stream/> . I did set streams up in way, that tiddler titles create an automatic "timeline" ... Which will allow my to connect the notes to the videos, if needed. Every tiddler has this format DAT-CON/2020/07/30/16:08:49-582 <http://dat-conf-2020.tiddlyspot.com/#DAT-CON%2F2020%2F07%2F30%2F16%3A08%3A49-582> DAT-CON/<year>/<month>/<day>/0hh:0mm:0ss-XXX So the TW tree-macro can also be used to view the timeline <http://dat-conf-2020.tiddlyspot.com/#test-tree-macro> in a different format. The tree-macro in the example only shows the tiddler titles. To show more info I needed to modify the macro according to my needs, but that's not public. I basically use the notes with the default search function. .. I open the tiddlers .. have a look for my own keywords to find the tiddler with the exact "timestamp"... With the timestamp I can find the related discussion or presentation in the Videos. ---> That's the main purpose of this outline. The published version doesn't contain any personal notes. ... So for me there is absolutely no desire to "flatten" the structure. ... I "widen" it with my notes and additional links to loosely related blog posts and github repos ... My initial feedback can be found here: https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/1jTwdmq8cgI/m/Orm9JRVNBQAJ ... The main problems that I did mention there with streams V0.1.10 are fixed with the latest version (0.2.18) of streams. So I'm perfectly fine with the possibilities it offers. For my personal convenience I need to adjust 1 little bit of CSS <http://dat-conf-2020.tiddlyspot.com/#CSS>. I need a different colour for the "collapse indicator", if a parent node is collapsed. It would be cool, if this was configurable, but in normal cases I only copy paste the CSS tiddler. I need to add the "keyboard shortcut <https://saqimtiaz.github.io/streams/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fsq%2Fstreams%2Finfo%2Fkeyboard-shortcuts>" cheat-sheet to the right sidebar by adding the tag $:/tags/Sidebar. @Saq This could be part of the control-panel config options ;) I need it for the shortcuts that I use seldom. For me "streams" is probably _the_ "easiest to use" "realtime" outliner I've ever used. For exporting you should probably have a closer look at the filters <https://saqimtiaz.github.io/streams/#Streams%200.2%20improvements%2FFilters> that Saq mentioned. Especially the last one. ... You are right, there is some room for improvement if "lists of stream tiddler titles" are shown. They are not very informative ... But imo the problem is, the needed list templates are highly use-case specific. .. So I actually don't know how they should look like. Not even form my own usecases. Since stream uses a field named "parent" to link to parent tiddlers my tocP macro <https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/tocP/> can also be used to show the structure. BUT in the current form this isn't too useful, since it only shows the title. ... I was experimenting to show the "subtitle" field, but adding that field manually is way too much work, to be done in realtime. (Mainly because finding good tiddler sub-titles is hard) ... I'm still not sure, how to solve this in a convenient and fast way. I hope this helps. have fun! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/597e2aa0-5c66-4695-9679-31afeab8146bn%40googlegroups.com.
