Hi Brian, > I seem to recall https://tiddlywiki.fission.app/ > <https://tiddlywiki.fission.app/> implements such a launcher,
That’s right. TiddlyDesktop also has a similar architecture. The challenge with Fission is that images stored in ones Fission drive are not accessible via a URL; there’s just a JS API to retrieve specific files. I have experimented with using a service worker to map local URLs to the JS API, which I think might be a promising generic technique for working with non-URL-based storage. > but currently that page has an endlessly spinning "Authorizing with fission" > message and the console has an "Uncaught (in promise) Error: Improperly > formatted header value: skeleton" in webnative.js, so I couldn't confirm my > memory. I hope to be able to work on TiddlyWiki on Fission soon, and will make an update to the latest version of the SDK. Best wishes Jeremy > I think the workflow implemented by the above two apps is "safer" than what I > saw in the TW chromium native file saver. With the TW native saver the > workflow looks like this: > Load my native saver enabled TW using some url (possibly a file:// url) > Click the Save button in HTML Native File System Saver modal > From the file dialog select the same file I'm already editing > Dialog box "a file with this name already exists, do you want to replace it?" > Start sweating a little bit...if I've chosen the wrong file here, I might be > overwriting something important > Sweat a little bit more especially if I've loaded it from a web url where it > isn't as easy to tell that I've selected the matching file or not > Cross my fingers, click the "replace" button and hope for the best > The bangle and diagrams.net <http://diagrams.net/> applications don't have > the same room for user error since you are prompted for what file to read and > then it automatically saves back to that same file. I find that workflow to > be less nerve-wracking. > > Maybe with tiddlywiki's unique structure there is an even better workflow to > be had, I don't know. And maybe the TW nativesaver can already be used with a > better workflow and I just missed it. > > On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 at 20:13, TW Tones <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Folks, > > I believe this is already available on tiddlywiki.com > <http://tiddlywiki.com/> at > https://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20Browser%20with%20File%20System%20Access%20API > > <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20Browser%20with%20File%20System%20Access%20API> > > It is not yet comprehensively documented and it is hard for me to determine > what level of functionality and customisation is available to us. As a > solution only on Chromium browsers it is not yet global in application, so > understanding its value is even harder to determine. > > I also ask myself "We require a click event to start the save dialogue" if > this could not be placed in a save button "lookalike" or another way to make > it user friendly. Ie just in time, not startup, Although in this thread > others suggest they do not need it. > > Can someone write a user designer perspective and/or comparison with existing > methods? > > My concerns; > How to design online tiddlywikis with a non-intrusive saving mechanism users > can understand. > Dealing with the contention possible with two parties editing the same site. > I would appreciate it is someone can spell this out a little more for us who > need it, and can't easily understand this from the jargon and reading between > the lines in this discussion. > > Thanks > Tones > On Wednesday, 9 February 2022 at 11:10:40 UTC+11 PMario wrote: > Hi, > I do like that option. > -mario > > On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 12:11:06 AM UTC+1 [email protected] <> > wrote: > It does work, though I think it is disruptive asking as soon as something is > done which triggers autosave. However, I have put in an option with version > 0.7.1 to disable the modal for those who don't like it. > > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 1:46:16 AM UTC-8 PMario wrote: > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 12:54:25 AM UTC+1 [email protected] <> wrote: > ... > Now with the indexdb entry re-populated, the sequence looks like this: > Reload the TW page > Click the + button to create a new tiddler > Click the checkmark to save the tiddler > A dialog box asks me if I want to let the site edit the file. I click the > "edit file" button > The file saves > So it is working for me even without the settings modal. Do you see this same > behavior? > > I also think the modal isn't needed. The API requires user interaction. ... > But I think the described behaviour is good. The permission is requested, > when the first save happens. Since this save is a user interaction it should > be good enough. > > -mario > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/ihoCXMIkz9I/unsubscribe > <https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/ihoCXMIkz9I/unsubscribe>. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6ee85fa3-f495-4a11-874d-01aa02db7a52n%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6ee85fa3-f495-4a11-874d-01aa02db7a52n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAAY2DnOq8LXuyC_4YJR6Q7KTU7%2Bek%3Ds_ZhGbYG_qa4PMEpir1A%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAAY2DnOq8LXuyC_4YJR6Q7KTU7%2Bek%3Ds_ZhGbYG_qa4PMEpir1A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAO5X8CzqmcQes5UTs%3DUDh_KDkSqp18_fpZc_ekvGF-iMeQ3SYQ%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAO5X8CzqmcQes5UTs%3DUDh_KDkSqp18_fpZc_ekvGF-iMeQ3SYQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/323FB324-7FE2-44AE-8AFB-9CF2DA30A9C8%40gmail.com.
