> Now, by eliminating piece by piece from the sheets - without having > even changed the look of the theme yet - already about 80% of > TiddlySpace, EmasticSystem, Neui-em sheets have been deleted and the > whole becomes much more compact and workable. You are right, that neui-em mainly uses EmasticPercent definitions and a bit from the grid. I did remove the rest, but it turns out, I need it from time to time for experimenting with absolute and em positioning. Since I am the one, which uses this theme the most and nobody else did complain, it's still in there. But it would be worth a second look :)
As I created the neui-em theme, I wanted to be able to switch back to the TiddlySpace default theme. The simpliest way to remove "default" TiddlySpace stuff is: exclude the "system-theme" space. > Trying to adapt this free-style dependent theme gave me a real bad > aftertaste about the whole free-style and emastic concept, which > seemed a real invention when I first heard of it too. And it might > really be an aid to someone wanting to create an extraordinary theme > without having much knowledge about TW specific style definitions. But > now I can't see any reason beyond for using it. As you said. Deleting stuff from my themes is much easier, than creating stuff, starting from vanilla TW, because it is designed to be that way. > It's 90% pure bloat and thereby loses any efficiency. ... It will be interesting, to see your result. > ... For one like my, > who never formally learned anything about CSS but still was able to > learn (by doing) to adapt any TW style (seehttp://change.tiddlyspot.com/) > this turned out the most difficult to work with because it's departure > from usual simple TW styles. I did think for a long time, if I should go my own way. Which also means, that plugins, that manipulate the layout won't work with my themes. But for me it turns out to be the right decision :) > Obviously, for me efficiency and easy > adaptability has much more value. Adaptability is important for me too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDieJXnc8ds I'm pretty sure, that moving the navigation stuff from the right to the left with the new-eee theme [x] will take more than 7 minutes. (The video is 10 minutes long because of some intro overhead. Editing starts at about 3 min ;) [x] http://new-eee.tiddlyspace.com/ > Since you created the 'free'-style system, Mario, and because I'm less > able grasp its advantages to the usual ways of TW themes, what are for > you the reasons for using it at all, beyond ease of creating > extraordinary themes on the fly? I do like the TiddlySpace include mechanism a lot. That's why I need themes that are includeable and usable for my needs. Eg: simplicity [1] uses my concept and is compatible but different to it's backend [2], which I named "complexity". Both are derived from "Nostalgia" theme. So without using the same mechanism for all of them I'd loose the overview. [1] http://simplicity.tiddlyspace.com [2] http://simplicity.tiddlyspace.com/#txtTheme:complexity Emastic's little brother Malo let's me quickly create a multi colum [3] view inside a tiddler. (See the dp50 in the view template). You can click the little blue sqares in the right column. [3] http://geneology.tiddlyspot.com/#GeneologyViewTemplate%20StyleSheet%20Me%20%5B%5BBig%20Daddy%5D%5D%20MeTwo And the whole stuff, let's me create TW meshups [4] quite fast and just for fun. The meshup [4] was inspired by a TW group duscussion [5]. [4] http://a-project.tiddlyspot.com/#Project [5] http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/d771f5d335540498 For me it's ultra fast prototyping and I don't need to care about the layout. It just works. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.

