Hi Mario - with the amount of help you are providing, you can work anywhere you like. I reckon I can 'port' anything you do in Tiddlyspace back to Tiddlywiki file if necessary.
I'll certainly be playing around with it a LOT before using it as a teaching aid. You are absolutely right, all those MLAs would kill most students (my most high level student today admitted he doesn't really understand the difference between a noun and a verb - a big lesson for me to learn! - And in fact he is right, the distinction is not 100% simple). Initially I think I will use it to color-code certain classes of words; for example, all finite verbs vs all non-finite verbs, an important distinction. Or perhaps, all determiners in RED for the eastern Europeans (Actually I did this already, since DTs are easy to identify). I want to use authentic materials as source, but mark them up automatically to assist students with reading, or to illustrate features so students can postulate their own rules. I imagine a situation where a student can copy/paste a text they are interested in, and it turns into a kind of lesson. I think illustration is more important than rules. (so in the case of NOUN vs VERB, I can use this tool - modded slightly - to paint the picture. Then the student can make his own rule, just like a native speaker has to) So, anyway, it's a starting point. (mouse-over's are a good idea) It will also help me prepare lessons - a student asked me about modal verbs, and I know they are interested in Italian art. So I can quickly identify sample sentences to illustrate a class on modals. Plus, in experimenting, ideas come. Is there a principled reason why the code doesn't function? My next plan was to re-write in MY code, because a.) Javascript lesson b.) my code is so simple it wouldn't challenge a kindergarten student. Yes, that is my job, pretty much. You might be interested that the most acceptable term these days is TESOL - Speakers of Other Languages, because let's be honest, many people already speak 2/3/4 languages before starting on English. I mainly teach students who are competent how to reach a standard suitable for university - newspapers, blogs, journal articles are the main texts we work with. I'll polish my Tiddlyspace up a bit, and invite you to join it. Thanks again for your time/interest. Andrew On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 5:59:19 PM UTC+10, PMario wrote: > > I got it working yesterday. You are right, there is a problem with the > lexer.js and the TW core program. So it didn't work out of the box. I > try to get in contact with the original author now, about the patches, > I did. > > I didn't make a test (yet), if the modified library has the same > results, as the unmodified. So it's not sure, if it does work at all. > But there is no error message any more :) > > TiddlySpace is much easier to handle and distribute (at least for me) > than a file TW. That's why the question. > > There are some other questions left: > Do you plan to use it, or did you just want to "play" with the library > and see what's possible? As I wrote, I got it working without this > nasty error message you encountered. But the whole stuff imo isn't > usefull in a TiddlyWiki context. IOM there will be some work to do, to > make it usefull. see [a] > > I also found some info about ESL teachers [1]. Is this, what you do? > > [a] > So if ESL stands for "English as a second language", and me as an ELL > "English Language Learner", I'd find it diffucult to work with such > stuff, since the tagger uses MLA's (Multi letter acronyms) to discribe > a tagged sentence. I as a user, would want to have some more > description about: /DT /VBZ /NN.... on mouse over. > > Does this make sense? > > regards > mario > > [1] http://www.wisegeek.com/what-does-an-esl-teacher-do.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/4ZtppPi-SqkJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
