On Thu, 18 Oct 2012, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

I believe that there is also an implementation of lazy loading for
TiddlySpace, but I don't have the details to hand. TW5 will have lazy
loading built in as part of the core.

There are a few different implementations but none was ever blessed as
the official solution.

Part of it was that things just keep getting faster on TiddlySpace, so
a sizable number of tiddlers, under the right conditions, can load
quite quickly, if they are coming from cache.

Another part is that there was insufficient feedback and development.

This is because the people who expresssed interest in having large
collections of tiddlers were in three groups:

* Didn't mind the slower load times: once stuff is loaded it is there
  and future operations are quite fast. Plugins exist that will load
  up new content as it "arrives" in the space.

* Wanted lots of tiddlers, but didn't care about TiddlyWiki, moved to
  using the HTML representation.

* Liked the concept of lazy loading, but didn't like the way in which
  timeline, search and tags were affected by it.

Identifying a larger group of participants from this latter set would
be useful as it could provide some robust feedback and other
contributions.

Without those contributions it is unlikely anything will happen.

In any case:

My space, which has 1099 tiddlers, takes about 3 seconds to load in
standard wiki mode (no laziness).

The /_tiddlywiki app (available from the @apps space[1]) is a special
customization of tiddlywiki that loads an empty tiddlywiki html +
javascript and then bootstraps itself by loading content after initial
start. To go from starting it to working TiddlyWiki takes longer than
3 seconds.

By the way, in total there about 825,000 revisions of 355,000 tiddlers
on http://tiddlyspace.com/

Of course all this stuff is on serversides. If what you're after is
standalone, then I think TiddlyWiki5 is probably going to be the
tool needed. For seriously large instances it will be important for
whatever the tool is to do what amounts to memory management on
tiddlers: disposing the least recently used.

[1] http://apps.tiddlyspace.com/
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