On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:10:10 PM UTC+8, Yakov wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> First, about the transclusion-section-slider behaviour: in the new
> pre-release old bugs seem to vanish and the table in the slider now is
> edited correctly. However, the other table now can't be edited.
> What I do:
> * click E
> * open any cell
> * if I change its content, clicking outside the cell doesn't close its
> text field (and clicking E does nothing); if I make the content equal to
> its initial state, I can "leave" the cell (click outside -> text field
> closes)
> * if I change the content and then double-click to open edit mode of the
> tiddler, when I return to view mode, the table is "freezed": looks like the
> table edit mode is on, but E doesn't do anything, as well as clicking the
> cells
>
> Yes, that's a bug that I didn't catch. Thanks.
> Next, the spanned cells navigation. Now I can get the spanned cells, but
> still there are some strange things (all the below applies to the table in
> the "Tiddler 1 in your pre release doc"):
> * going to the left throws from c22 to c23 instead of "c12" (which
> contains "~")
> * "c12" + right -> c13
> * c22 + up -> c11
> * c11 + right -> c13
> * also, cells spanned with ">" are represented one below the other insead
> of being near each other (is this by intent?)
>
That is the browser's behavior, wherever TWted goes is what the browser
tells it where the "next" cell is. I noticed that when I was writing the
TWtcalc codes but with mouse there was no need to take care of it so I
didn't do. However, with keyboard I agree it is better to make it "visually
consistent", for which I need to change quite some places in the codes.
Hopefully that can be fixed within the next few releases.
>
> The "Missing Cells" tiddler:
> * indeed, I can't get into missing cells by keyboard in Opera; in FF,
> however, I can get into "F0" from F1, E0, "F2" and A0
> * the most problematic thing is the "=d2*2" cell: it is represented in an
> unusual way (in edit mode it also shows it's wikified content) and in FF
> that's the only cell from which I can't go into "F2"
>
Hm...This I need to check more carefully...
>
> Editing lists is very nice, even in this simple approach. Some (may be
> evident) suggestions:
> * after table editor, it's rather expected that clicking outside would
> close the editor
>
* keyboard navigation via up and down arrows would be brilliant
>
These are planned.
> * removing one or more * in the beginning causes.. strange behaviour, so
> does adding *
>
This is not taken care of yet, for changing the level of a list item
changes the "order of appearance" of all list items after it, which will
give wrong results if you try to edit any of the following items
afterwards. The reason is that WTted uses that "order of appearance" to
locate the corresponding wiki text, and it stores that order as an
attribute of the element upon tiddler initialization for performance
consideration. A simple way to take care of this is to refresh the whole
tiddler for TWted to recalculate and store their orders of appearance. This
will be the solution in the next release. Later I may try other solutions
if necessary (for example, find the order of appearance when the user wants
to edit the element instead of when the tiddler is refreshed).
> * [like I mentioned previously: moving list items up and down,
> copy/cut/paste, level-up/level-down options would be useful, especiall with
> regard to the issue above]
>
Keyboard navigation on list items shall need to wait a bit, for the current
codes were written specifically for table cells, quite a few places need
modification to generalize.
>
> Clicking links or sliders inside lists doesn't open the editor, WOW! I'm
> curious if you've done extra things for this: I also tried
>
> <html><a href="javascript:;" onclick="displayMessage('this
> works!');">smth</a></html>
>
> and this also doesn't toggle edit mode.. what I mean is that the plugin
> could open the edit mode "when unnecessary" and while I tried only some
> things which can appear, can we be sure that it'll be ok with others?
> That's the only reason why I haven't suggested such "one click" approach
> without any edit button.
>
The links are NOT DISABLED in edit mode by default so clicking them still
leads you wherever they point to. You can set the option
chkTWtedDisableLink to true if you want to disable them in the edit mode
(then clicking them will bring up the edit box). This option was introduced
a few versions ago and for now only links are done this way, sliders or
other things that can be toggled on and off are not, for I didn't expect a
slider panel in a list item or a table cell. I guess what you saw for
sliders inside a list was probably because the TWted couldn't find the
corresponding wiki text so it didn't do anything. I will think about this
in the later versions.
Have fun!
Vincent
> This is close to a revolution :)
>
> By the way, you may be interested in how
> PasteUpPlugin<http://www.tiddlytools.com/#PasteUpPlugin>and
> EditSectionPlugin <http://www.tiddlytools.com/#EditSectionPlugin> work as
> they also do some "partial editing" work.
>
> Cheers,
> Yakov.
>
> среда, 5 декабря 2012 г., 13:20:09 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал:
>>
>> Yakov and Ton,
>>
>> I was quite exiting about the list editing things so I decided to skip
>> the release of 1.4.7 and spent my last weekend and the past few evenings
>> working on it. Lists, headers and blockquotes are editable (but still quite
>> primitive). You can try it at
>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/pre_release-1.5.0-alpha%2B0.7.7.html.
>> (Note
>> that these are *alpha* versions.) What can be done and what not are
>> pretty much described in the Intro and test tiddlers (tagged with Tests).
>>
>> And about the last test case, the table in Section 2 shows only 'C'
>> button because it does not have the "editable" class, not of a bug. :-)
>> However, the strange behavior was possibly due to a bug in refreshing
>> partially transcluded content. I should have fixed it in the pre-release
>> version too.
>>
>> Have fun!
>> Vincent
>>
>
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