Hello Vincent,

I'll probably return to testing after 17th of Jan, after my Master's degree 
exam (but may be take a look earlier).

Best regards,
Yakov.

четверг, 3 января 2013 г., 10:30:15 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал:
>
> Dear All,
>
> It's been a while since last update. I had been, and still will be, busy 
> on a big event here at the end of this month. Yet I managed to find time 
> over the long weekend to do some works on the plugins. The alpha-3 file is 
> available at 
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/pre_release-1.5.0-alpha-3%2B0.7.7.html.
>
> Comments/Suggestions/Bug reports are always welcome!
>
> I plan to release 1.5.0 on Feb 08, one day before the Chinese New Year's 
> Eve. In this coming version most of the block elements -- tables, lists, 
> headers, foldable contents (with FoldHeadingsPlugin), preformats, 
> blockquotes, and blockexamples -- shall be editable. The name of the 
> TWtable plugin shall be changed to TWtid (TW tiddler) in accordance with 
> the feature expansion. TWted retains its name with a different meaning -- 
> *tiddler editor* instead of table editor.
>
> Main changes in alpha-3 are
>
>    1. Move list items with Ctrl-up/down keys.
>       1. Still primitive, please find bugs and tell me about them.
>       2. Moving elements is complicated with the current code structure. 
>       I plan to rewrite some parts of the codes to make it simpler.
>    2. Added option chkTWtedInViewMode (default to true) to toggle editing 
>    manner.
>       - If set to true (the default), one can edit those editable 
>       elements in TW's view mode while keeping the default edit box in edit 
> mode 
>       the same old way.
>       - Otherwise the view mode remains just for viewing, and TW's 
>       default edit box is replaced with a WYSIWYG-like editor.
>          - In this manner one can still bring back the default edit box 
>          by one of the following ways,
>             - disable TWtable or TWted (re-enable to enter the 
>             WYSIWYG-like mode again),
>             - double-click in a no-element area (click away/Ctrl-Enter/Esc 
>             to go back to WYSIWYG-like mode).
>          3. Bug fixes for partial transclusion synchronization.
>    4. Bug fixes for locating a missing cell.
>
>
> Have fun!
> Vincent
>
> On Thursday, December 13, 2012 11:17:49 AM UTC+8, Vincent Yeh wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback, Ton and Yakov, I will take them into 
>> consideration for sure.
>> I'll be busy and won't be doing much on these plugins for several weeks, 
>> we'll talk later.
>>
>> Vincent
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:32:46 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Vincent, 
>>>
>>> I played around with your latest prelease and can see future 
>>> possibilities. 
>>> On the other hand it would be nice to just have a no frills table 
>>> editor. Table editing was always very difficult in TW and is now a 
>>> pleasure with your plugin(s). I'am using the (stable) version 1.4.6 
>>> daily and there I only miss the keyboard navigation you already 
>>> implemented in prereleases. A (stable) 1.4.x release with added 
>>> keyboard navigation would be much appreciated. 
>>> I second Yakov's remarks about the Edit mode in the prerelease: do not 
>>> combine general editing with table/headings/list editing. As Yakov 
>>> already stated: there is no fallback anymore (at the moment you cannot 
>>> even edit body text). 
>>>
>>> Cheers, 
>>>
>>> Ton 
>>>
>>> On Dec 11, 12:21 pm, Yakov <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>> > Hello :) 
>>> > 
>>> >  > Good timing! 
>>> > 
>>> > Indeed! 
>>> > 
>>> > <<< 
>>> > Well, during development I noticed that clicking a link can trigger 
>>> two 
>>> > actions: opening the link and the edit box, due to event bubbling. But 
>>> I 
>>> > didn't like it that way so I introduced the option to restrict it to 
>>> one 
>>> > action, either opening the link or opening the edit box. Now I know 
>>> that 
>>> > two actions can be expected in some cases, I will figure a way to put 
>>> it 
>>> > back. 
>>> > <<< 
>>> > 
>>> > No-no-no, two actions were expected but they are not desired, so 
>>> everything 
>>> > is fine. I just want to be sure that there wouldn't be two actions in 
>>> some 
>>> > untested situations, that's what I was talking about. But as I 
>>> understand, 
>>> > you basically stop bubbling the onclick event, so that shouldn't 
>>> happen 
>>> > anyway, right? 
>>> > 
>>> > The new alpha looks good, but I have one important question: why did 
>>> you 
>>> > move inline editing into the edit mode? On the one hand, inline 
>>> editing has 
>>> > this nice feature that one doesn't need to scroll up to the menu -- 
>>> well, 
>>> > double-click now makes editor open right in place, but to close edit 
>>> mode 
>>> > one has to scroll up and click "done"/"cancel"; on the other hand, 
>>> with 
>>> > usual edit mode, one has a usual fallback to edit what is unsupported 
>>> for 
>>> > now. I think 
>>> > * the ordinary edit mode shouldn't be hijacked, but rather two options 
>>> > should remain 
>>> > * there should be an option to be "permanently in the inline edit 
>>> mode", 
>>> > like it was implemented before 
>>> > 
>>> > Best regards, 
>>> > Yakov. 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>>
>>

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