Hi Dave
> Okay, listened to the whoooole Youtube video while multitasking. My > comments and reactions: > Awesome, glad it was listenable. > 1. No mention was made of the drafts of initial end-user documentation I > wrote up, and Jeremy hasn't followed up with me regarding a TiddlySpot or > TiddlySpace in which he was going to store that documentation. Is that > still on the table? Or maybe it wasn't what you were looking for? What is > happening with that? > I've just not got around to making the necessary changes to the TW5 build process, I'm afraid. Right now the content for tw5.com is stored as individual .tid files in GitHub. The ideal way for people to collaborate as things stand is to send GitHub pull requests for the documentation; that's obviously a bit of a high barrier to participation, hence me wanting to rearrange things so that the content comes from a shared TiddlySpace. (That's how we handle the tw classic content). Anyhow, I will try to manually merge in the content you've already sent me, which would get us a good bit further along the road. > > 2. I am dabbling with a script for a rough draft of a video that could go > on TiddlyWiki5 for end-users. I will record it and add some VERY > rudimentary visuals to it as I am able. > Great, thanks for that. I think focussing on the script makes a lot of sense at the moment - the visuals of TW5 are inevitably going to change further. > 3. I am beginning to think that TiddlyWiki5 itself is not the best place > to have links to the themes, plugins, macros, guides, examples, tutorials, > etc. > a. I think TiddlyWiki5 should have a tab called "Customize" or "Pimp your > notes" or "Goodies" or something like that, and in the tab, there is one > external link "Find themes for your TiddlyWiki" that takes you to an > official TW full of themes and style hacks, moderated via Github, but where > the new user doesn't even have to know about Github to access it. > b. In the same tab would be a second external link called "Find goodies > for your TiddlyWiki" that opens the official plugin/widget/macro > TiddlyWiki. Again, this TiddlyWiki would be moderated via Github, but all > the new user would see are the tiddlers, which again they can drag and drop > to their own TioddlyWikis. > Entering either of these would function like a grab bag of free stuff you > can pilfer to your heart's content and add to your own TiddlyWikis. Kind of > like the webpage for Firefox addons. This idea is so that TiddlyWiki5 > doesn't get either too bloated, filesize wise, or too complicated to > navigate. It is also so that there is a quick way to get to the official > themes, goodies, adaptations, etc that make TiddlyWiki so addicting and > customizable. > OK, I think this is inline with my thinking: 1) empty.html will stay empty, with no plugins beyond the core (other editions will ship with a bunch of selected plugins; that's part of the point of editions) 2) five.tiddlywiki.com/plugins/ would bring up a plugin catalogue 3) users can drag plugins directly from the catalogue into their own TWs 4) alternatively, users can visit a tab within the control panel of their TW that allows them to search and select from the plugin catalogue directly (we need this because drag and drop doesn't work on tablets and phones) 5) the use of github for developers to collaborate on plugins would be invisible for end users > c. There could also be an external link from TW5 to a separate site, > probably not a TiddlyWiki, with guides, testimonials, tutorials, examples, > links to user adaptations, and community. Not sure what that would look > like, but should be easy for users to navigate via a dead simple TOC to get > to what they need. Part social connection, part Google groups, part toolbox? > As we discussed on the call, we need to figure out the list of community artefacts that we want to manage. As plugins are just tiddlers, if we build something that's good for plugins then it could be adapted for other content. FAQs make a good example. 4. For the record, you Facebook haters, I use Facebook every day! But then > I live and work in a second culture and it is a great way to keep up with > people back home, and also connect with students and others outside of > seminary, etc. I know what I need it for, and limit myself to that. You > guys did the kneejerk negative reaction, but since you didn't explain > yourselves, I am inclined to see it as "pick on the big popular site just > because it is big and popular", or something along those lines. Oh, you > hipsters! LOL. But seriously, I would love to hear what your actual > reasoning for hating on Facebook is. > Probably a topic for another thread. It's certainly not that I hate Facebook, or even that I don't trust them. I trust them to behave like Facebook, and that's fine. I only ever used them for photo sharing and now I find Dropbox better for that. > > Anyway, couldn't be there this time, because I got distracted, but here > are my follow up comments for what they are worth. Blessings > Many thanks for the feedback Dave, Best wishes Jeremy > > Dave > > > > On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 5:34:44 PM UTC-5, David Gifford wrote: >> >> Hey! I heard the name "giffmex"! More than once! hahaha >> >> Dave >> >> On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 4:47:32 PM UTC-5, David Gifford wrote: >>> >>> Trying to watch and do grading for my class at the same time. >>> >>> Sorry I missed it! I got working on something else, and when I >>> remembered the hangout, it was probably just ending! (smacking my forehead >>> as I type) >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 12:40:48 PM UTC-5, PMario wrote: >>>> >>>> I did add some timeline comments (in reverse order) that helps me to >>>> find stuff :) >>>> -m >>>> >>> -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:[email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
