Thanks for the feedback, too, Jeremy! See the rough draft of the script in a new thread. Blessings
Dave On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 2:52:47 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > Hi Dave > > >> Okay, listened to the whoooole Youtube video while multitasking. My >> comments and reactions: >> > > Awesome, glad it was listenable. > > >> 1. No mention was made of the drafts of initial end-user documentation I >> wrote up, and Jeremy hasn't followed up with me regarding a TiddlySpot or >> TiddlySpace in which he was going to store that documentation. Is that >> still on the table? Or maybe it wasn't what you were looking for? What is >> happening with that? >> > > I've just not got around to making the necessary changes to the TW5 build > process, I'm afraid. > > Right now the content for tw5.com is stored as individual .tid files in > GitHub. The ideal way for people to collaborate as things stand is to send > GitHub pull requests for the documentation; that's obviously a bit of a > high barrier to participation, hence me wanting to rearrange things so that > the content comes from a shared TiddlySpace. (That's how we handle the tw > classic content). > > Anyhow, I will try to manually merge in the content you've already sent > me, which would get us a good bit further along the road. > > >> >> 2. I am dabbling with a script for a rough draft of a video that could go >> on TiddlyWiki5 for end-users. I will record it and add some VERY >> rudimentary visuals to it as I am able. >> > > Great, thanks for that. I think focussing on the script makes a lot of > sense at the moment - the visuals of TW5 are inevitably going to change > further. > > >> 3. I am beginning to think that TiddlyWiki5 itself is not the best place >> to have links to the themes, plugins, macros, guides, examples, tutorials, >> etc. >> a. I think TiddlyWiki5 should have a tab called "Customize" or "Pimp your >> notes" or "Goodies" or something like that, and in the tab, there is one >> external link "Find themes for your TiddlyWiki" that takes you to an >> official TW full of themes and style hacks, moderated via Github, but where >> the new user doesn't even have to know about Github to access it. >> b. In the same tab would be a second external link called "Find goodies >> for your TiddlyWiki" that opens the official plugin/widget/macro >> TiddlyWiki. Again, this TiddlyWiki would be moderated via Github, but all >> the new user would see are the tiddlers, which again they can drag and drop >> to their own TioddlyWikis. >> Entering either of these would function like a grab bag of free stuff you >> can pilfer to your heart's content and add to your own TiddlyWikis. Kind of >> like the webpage for Firefox addons. This idea is so that TiddlyWiki5 >> doesn't get either too bloated, filesize wise, or too complicated to >> navigate. It is also so that there is a quick way to get to the official >> themes, goodies, adaptations, etc that make TiddlyWiki so addicting and >> customizable. >> > > OK, I think this is inline with my thinking: > > 1) empty.html will stay empty, with no plugins beyond the core (other > editions will ship with a bunch of selected plugins; that's part of the > point of editions) > 2) five.tiddlywiki.com/plugins/ would bring up a plugin catalogue > 3) users can drag plugins directly from the catalogue into their own TWs > 4) alternatively, users can visit a tab within the control panel of their > TW that allows them to search and select from the plugin catalogue directly > (we need this because drag and drop doesn't work on tablets and phones) > 5) the use of github for developers to collaborate on plugins would be > invisible for end users > > >> c. There could also be an external link from TW5 to a separate site, >> probably not a TiddlyWiki, with guides, testimonials, tutorials, examples, >> links to user adaptations, and community. Not sure what that would look >> like, but should be easy for users to navigate via a dead simple TOC to get >> to what they need. Part social connection, part Google groups, part toolbox? >> > > As we discussed on the call, we need to figure out the list of community > artefacts that we want to manage. As plugins are just tiddlers, if we build > something that's good for plugins then it could be adapted for other > content. FAQs make a good example. > > 4. For the record, you Facebook haters, I use Facebook every day! But then >> I live and work in a second culture and it is a great way to keep up with >> people back home, and also connect with students and others outside of >> seminary, etc. I know what I need it for, and limit myself to that. You >> guys did the kneejerk negative reaction, but since you didn't explain >> yourselves, I am inclined to see it as "pick on the big popular site just >> because it is big and popular", or something along those lines. Oh, you >> hipsters! LOL. But seriously, I would love to hear what your actual >> reasoning for hating on Facebook is. >> > > Probably a topic for another thread. It's certainly not that I hate > Facebook, or even that I don't trust them. I trust them to behave like > Facebook, and that's fine. I only ever used them for photo sharing and now > I find Dropbox better for that. > > >> >> Anyway, couldn't be there this time, because I got distracted, but here >> are my follow up comments for what they are worth. Blessings >> > > Many thanks for the feedback Dave, > > Best wishes > > Jeremy > >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 5:34:44 PM UTC-5, David Gifford wrote: >>> >>> Hey! I heard the name "giffmex"! More than once! hahaha >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 4:47:32 PM UTC-5, David Gifford wrote: >>>> >>>> Trying to watch and do grading for my class at the same time. >>>> >>>> Sorry I missed it! I got working on something else, and when I >>>> remembered the hangout, it was probably just ending! (smacking my forehead >>>> as I type) >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 12:40:48 PM UTC-5, PMario wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I did add some timeline comments (in reverse order) that helps me to >>>>> find stuff :) >>>>> -m >>>>> >>>> > > > -- > Jeremy Ruston > mailto:[email protected] <javascript:> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. 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